Facial reconstruction of ancient people of the Americas

[ButlerKing]

Mal'ta boy mixed with other Siberians in the way (mostly females).

Mal'ta boy was already partial Mongoloid himself. It is unlikely R1b came from Malta boy because they had mtDNA U instead of X. There was no European or caucasoid skull found in Americas.

A theory suggest that the Amerindians who migrated to Americas already had such dna. Both pure Siberian Mongoloid and mix Siberian Mongoloid like today siberia migrate to Americas. However it must be mentioned that the original siberian population looked more like Amerindians before the ice age changed the siberian mongoloid with east asian features.

[ButlerKing]

If they genocide Mayas, how is that there are many of them and even you post pictures of them..... Spanish didn't do a very good job...lol.

This thread is serious, just dont start with your bullshit and spoil the whole thing.

They were genocide but that doesn't mean they were completely exterminated. If that makes sense to you.

[Insuperable]

Just when you think Butlerking can't get any dumber.

[Armand_Duval]

They were genocide but that doesn't mean they were completely exterminated. If that makes sense to you.

Then it wanst a gencide.

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the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Do you think that after being 300 years in command of the New Spain, -current Mexico- the Spanish Crown would have left any amerind alive if they would have wanted to genocide them?.

Please dont spread half truths and false assumpions youre talking about my country so if you dont have anythig good or intelligent to say, just refrain to say lies about my country's history.

[Danishmend]

All Native Americans are 27/35% West Eurasian, on average.

Does that come from Spaniards, or something older?

Edit: I just saw your second post explaining it

[ButlerKing]

Just when you think Butlerking can't get any dumber.

Sure but I won't be the only dumb one, that includes many like Micheal Barter, and plenty more who against this theory.

If you're so smart tell why than all the mtDNA of these native American were X where as the Malta boy and his group is U? a

Besides did you read what the genetic article say? it says malta boy is only 1/3 European + 1/3 South Asian + 1/3 Native America.Isn't that some funny shit? is like claiming that Native American really do have a south Asian indian origin haahahahahahahaha................!"




According to the same genetic bullshit they claim the boy was 1/3 South Asian (including 1/3 European + 1/3 Native. )

Malta boy = triracial boy hahahahahaha



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From a review article:

Debetz (1946) identified the remains of “nothern Asian Mongoloids” at the site of Afontova Gora 2; they included a fragment of the frontal bone. Mongoloid features had been originally acknowledged in the skeletal remains of a child found at the site of Malta. Alexeev (1998, 323) in his later publication was more cautious, stating that this area was “inhabited by a population of Mongoloid appearance.” UPDATE (Oct 26):

Michael Balter has an article on this topic in Science:
Yet the child's Y chromosome belongs to a genetic group called Y haplogroup R, and its mitochondrial DNA to a haplogroup U. Today, those haplogroups are found almost exclusively in people living in Europe and regions of Asia west of the Altai Mountains, which are near the borders of Russia, China, and Mongolia.

This suggests that the Mal'ta boy was not ancestral to Native Americans (since Native Americans don't possess Y-haplogroup R and mt-haplogroup U), although obviously is in some way related to them based on the autosomal evidence. It's hard to read between the lines, but I guess a paper in Nature will come out soon enough as it is currently "in press".

[Gauthier]

They look very unreduced and Cromagnid influenced. Honestly I still stand with my theory that probably ancient Teotihucan civilization was built by a more Europiform (CM) unreduced type of Amerindians and later they were displaced by a short, pyknic and much more deviant group of people, who would later just rip off everything from Teotihucan. Tho, probably a small elite of different racial types survived in the Aztec and Mayan empire.

I'm impressed by the diversity of phenotypes, some with obvious caucasoid tendencies. I believe that more than one group of people arrived to the americas through different routes, it was not solely Siberians.

The Kennewick man looks so much like the actor from start trek, Patrick Stewart.

[Han Cholo]

Does that come from Spaniards, or something older?

Older. Back then when they were still in Siberia.

[ButlerKing]

I'm impressed by the diversity of phenotypes, some with obvious caucasoid tendencies. I believe that more than one group of people arrived to the americas through different routes, it was not solely Siberians.

The Kennewick man looks so much like the actor from start trek, Patrick Stewart.

The problem is no modern anthropologist today will classify them as Caucasoid. Claiming Kennewick man as caucasoid is about as good as claiming polynesians as caucasoid.


For goodness sake why do people mistake archaic traits for caucasoid?

" Anthropologist Joseph Powell of the University of New Mexico was also allowed to examine the remains. Powell used craniometric data obtained by anthropologist William White Howells of Harvard University and anthropologist Tsunehiko Hanihara of Saga University that had the advantage of including data drawn from Asian and North American populations.[9] Powell said that Kennewick Man was not European but most resembled the Ainu[6] and Polynesians.[9] Powell said that the Ainu descend from the Jōmon people who are an East Asian population with "closest biological affinity with south-east Asians rather than western Eurasian peoples".[10] Furthermore, Powell said that dental analysis showed the skull to have a 94 percent chance of being a Sundadont group like the Ainu and Polynesians and only a 48 percent chance of being a Sinodont group like that of North Asia.[9] Powell said analysis of the skull showed it to be "unlike American Indians and Europeans".[9] Powell concluded that Kennewick man "is clearly not a Caucasoid unless Ainu and Polynesians are considered Caucasoid."[10] "

[Han Cholo]

I'm impressed by the diversity of phenotypes, some with obvious caucasoid tendencies. I believe that more than one group of people arrived to the americas through different routes, it was not solely Siberians.

The Kennewick man looks so much like the actor from start trek, Patrick Stewart.

For the most parts it was mostly Siberians (but Siberians back then weren't the same as they are today). What happened here is that it was various waves at different times. Most scientific community believe there was at least 4 waves, with ancestors of Inuits being the most recent ones.

The Polynesian explorers, Ancient Australoid histories make might make a lot of (or just some) sense, but there is a complete lack of conclusive evidence and proofs.