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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Why in the Union Jack there is no representation of the flag of Wales if it is assumed that the Union Jack represents the whole UK?
    Very simple - the UK is the United Kingdom, formed 1707 by a union of the Kingdoms of England and Scotland, hence the incorporation of both their national flags. In 1801 the Kingdom of Ireland was added and the flag was changed accordingly. Wales was a principality of England and not an independent polity (hasn't been since the 13th century barring a brief period of independence for Gwynedd under Owain Glyndwr in the early 1400s). Ergo, it is not featured on the flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Very simple - the UK is the United Kingdom, formed 1707 by a union of the Kingdoms of England and Scotland, hence the incorporation of both their national flags. In 1801 the Kingdom of Ireland was added and the flag was changed accordingly. Wales was a principality of England and not an independent polity (hasn't been since the 13th century barring a brief period of independence for Gwynedd under Owain Glyndwr in the early 1400s). Ergo, it is not featured on the flag.
    Wales was incorporated into England (or rather Britain) officially in 1536. Before then it was mostly just irregular incursions.

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    So much fuss over a dragon picture.

    What do people think of the Isle of Man's flag?




    The Manx people still keep a 1000 year old Viking parliament on their island.

    The High Court of Tynwald is the parliament of the Isle of Man and has an unlimited, but not necessarily exclusive, legislative competence. Tynwald is of Norse origin and over 1,000 years old, and is thus the oldest parliament in the world with an unbroken existence.

    It has two Branches, the Legislative Council and the House of Keys, which sit separately to consider legislation, but also sit together in Douglas, and annually at St John's, for other parliamentary purposes.

    http://www.tynwald.org.im/Pages/default.aspx

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tynwald

    Oh, and look out for those Manx cats that are born without tails on them.... (it may be a sign that the cat is a familiar... )
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    The Manx flag looks like a headless Morris dancer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Wales was incorporated into England (or rather Britain) officially in 1536. Before then it was mostly just irregular incursions.
    ? no. Wales was incorporated into the Kingdom of England (Britain not existing as a polity at the time) well before that. The laws of the 1530s just codified the situation. By this point a Welshman by the name of Tudur had even become King of England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    ? no. Wales was incorporated into the Kingdom of England (Britain not existing as a polity at the time) well before that. The laws of the 1530s just codified the situation. By this point a Welshman by the name of Tudur had even become King of England.
    Wales' main problem was that, unlike Scotland, it seldom was united, so most of the time English monarchs and lords could buy off different princes to fight each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Wales' main problem was that, unlike Scotland, it seldom was united, so most of the time English monarchs and lords could buy off different princes to fight each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Wales' main problem was that, unlike Scotland, it seldom was united, so most of the time English monarchs and lords could buy off different princes to fight each other.
    Yes it wasn't one polity, but rather many - finally Gwynedd of course.
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    The ancient City of London has dragons on their crest (below on the left) and nobody freaks-out over the sight of the dragons.



    The City of London ('the financial district' and 'square mile') in Central London is guarded by statues of dragons as explained in the short video below. The City of London acts like its own country and has its own flag (shown above on the right,) and a separate mayor to the rest of London, separate laws and taxes, etc, and the corporations that run the CoL are older than the United Kingdom. They have a large Masonic Temple building there too, (just waiting for the conspiracy theorists to freak-out! ) Even the Queen has to gain formal permission from The Right Honourable The Lord Mayor during a ceremony before she's allowed to enter into the City of London:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Actually, it is representative of Satan, or at the very least, a symbol of the serpent-bloodlines which have mingled there (and then thenceforth spread)
    Sounds good to me

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