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    Quote Originally Posted by Aptëm View Post
    me butchering sardinian
    http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RuwqvvXBDa

    great!

    a mix of right and wrong pronounces, but surprisingly quite clear, The "J" should be pronounced like a "Y"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    great!

    a mix of right and wrong pronounces, but surprisingly quite clear, The "J" should be pronounced like a "Y"
    thanks for not getting angry, i really did try to pronounce it, i speak little italian, but sardinian looks a bit different
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriptcov View Post
    thanks for not getting angry, i really did try to pronounce it, i speak little italian, but sardinian looks a bit different
    very different indeed

    If you know some Latin and Spanish, you can understand Sardinian with few difficulties

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    Sardinian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    very different indeed

    If you know some Latin and Spanish, you can understand Sardinian with few difficulties

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    yes i understand that, both.

    portuguese and spanish:

    Se conheces um pouco de Latim e Espanhol, podes compreender o Sardo* com pouca dificuldade.
    Si conoces un poco de Latin y Español, puedes comprender el Sardo* con poca dificuldad.
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    Not that different from Italian. I can understand it. Maybe i can have some difficulties to understand older population of Sardinia who speak a strong version of the language.

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    HOW VERBS WORK IN SARDINIAN LANGUAGE

    Sardinian verbs are quite easy to master if you have a basic knowledge of Latin, because given that Sardinian language is the most conservative of the Romance family, the verbal conjugations have remained nearly identical to the four Latin conjugations.

    IInd CONJUGATION

    The IInd conjugation is composed by verbs with INFINITIVES ending with "ERE"

    Verbal Paradigm
    Latin : -o -es -ui -itum -ere
    Sardinian : -o -es -ía -idu -ere


    VERB "BÍDERE" (to SEE)

    INDICATIVO
    Presente Passato prossimo
    deo/eo bído
    tue bídes
    issu/issa/isse bídet
    nòis bidímus
    bòis bidídes
    issos/issas/isses bíden
    deo/eo happo bidu
    tue has bidu
    issu/issa/isse hat bidu
    nòis hamus bidu
    bòis hàzis/hàtis bidu
    issos/issas/isses han bidu

    Imperfetto

    Trapassato prossimo
    deo/eo bidía/bidío
    tue bidísti
    issu/issa/isse bidíat
    nòis bidímis
    bòis bidízis/bidítis
    issos/issas/isses bidían
    deo/eo haía/haío bidu
    tue haísti bidu
    issu/issa/isse haít bidu
    nòis haímis bidu
    bòis haízis/haítis bidu
    issos/issas/isses haían bidu

    Passato remoto

    Trapassato remoto
    deo/eo bidía/bidío
    tue bidísti
    issu/issa/isse bidíat
    nòis bidímis
    bòis bidízis/bidítis
    issos/issas/isses bidían
    deo/eo haía/haío hàppidu bidu
    tue haísti hàppidu bidu
    issu/issa/isse haít hàppidu bidu
    nòis haímis hàppidu bidu
    bòis haízis/haítis hàppidu bidu
    issos/issas/isses haían hàppidu bidu

    Futuro semplice
    (The Simple Future in Sardinian is composed by Indicative Present of to Have +A/AD + Infinitive of the other verb)

    Futuro anteriore
    deo/eo happo a bídere
    tue has a bídere
    issu/issa/isse hat a bídere
    nòis hamus a bídere
    bòis hàzis/hàtis a bídere
    issos/issas/isses han a bídere
    deo/eo happo hàer bidu
    tue has hàer bidu
    issu/issa/isse hat hàer bidu
    nòis hamus hàer bidu
    bòis hàzis/hàtis hàer bidu
    issos/issas/isses han hàer bidu
    CONGIUNTIVO
    Presente Passato
    qui deo/eo bida
    qui tue bídas
    qui issu/issa/isse bídat
    qui nòis bidémus
    qui bòis bidédas
    qui issos/issas/isses bídan
    qui deo/eo haére bidu
    qui tue haéres bidu
    qui issu/issa/isse haéret bidu
    qui nòis haerémus bidu
    qui bòis haerédes bidu
    qui issos/issas/isses haéren bidu

    Imperfetto

    Trapassato
    qui deo/eo bidére/a
    qui tue bidéres/as
    qui issu/issa/isse bidéret/at
    qui nòis biderémus
    qui bòis biderédes/as
    qui issos/issas/isses bidéren/an
    qui deo/eo haére hàppidu bidu
    qui tue haéres hàppidu bidu
    qui issu/issa/isse haéret hàppidu bidu
    qui nòis haerémus hàppidu bidu
    qui bòis haerédes hàppidu bidu
    qui issos/issas/isses haéren hàppidu bidu

    CONDIZIONALE
    Presente
    (In Sardinian the Conditional Tense is composed by Subjunctive Present of To Give + Infinitive of the other verb)
    deo/eo dia bídere
    tue dìas bídere
    issu/issa/isse dìat bídere
    nòis dièmus bídere
    bòis dièdas bídere
    issos/issas/isses dìan/dìen bídere
    Passato
    deo/eo dia hàer bidu
    tue dìas hàer bidu
    issu/issa/isse dìat hàer bidu
    nòis dièmus hàer bidu
    bòis dièdas hàer bidu
    issos/issas/isses dìan/dìen hàer bidu
    IMPERATIVO
    Presente

    Singolare
    2nd : bíde
    3rd : bídat
    Plurale
    1st : bidímus
    2nd :
    bidíde
    3rd :
    bídan

    INFINITO
    Presente
    Bídere

    Passato

    Hàer bidu


    PARTICIPIO
    Presente
    Bidende

    Passato
    Singolare
    Bidu

    Plurale
    Bídos/as
    GERUNDIO
    Presente
    Bidende

    Passato

    Happénde Bidu
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaVictrix View Post
    Not that different from Italian. I can understand it. Maybe i can have some difficulties to understand older population of Sardinia who speak a strong version of the language.
    but surely more similar to Spanish or Portuguese in many things and to Latin in many archaic terms not present in Italian or in other Romance languages, there are also many differences in the verb-subject order, not to mention the verbal conjugations, plurals, idiomatic expressions and other thousands things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mens-Sarda View Post
    but surely more similar to Spanish or Portuguese in many things and to Latin in many archaic terms not present in Italian or in other Romance languages, there are also many differences in the verb-subject order, not to mention the verbal conjugations, plurals, idiomatic expressions and other thousands things
    I speak neither Italian nor Sardinian, but I see a great difference, just in the structure of sentences that is not the same!

    To say "Not that different from Italian" is dishonest (it is not an insult, huh): the difference is important and visible.
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    CONTINUES

    HOW VERBS WORK IN SARDINIAN LANGUAGE

    Sardinian verbs are quite easy to master if you have a basic knowledge of Latin, because given that Sardinian language is the most conservative of the Romance family, the verbal conjugations have remained nearly identical to the four Latin conjugations.


    IIIrd CONJUGATION

    The IIIrd conjugation is composed by verbs with INFINITIVES ending with "IRE"

    Verbal Paradigm
    Sardinian : esso, èssis, essìa, essìdu, essire

    Latin : exĕo, exis, exii, exitum, exire

    VERB "ESSIRE" (to EXIT)

    INDICATIVO
    INDICATIVO
    Presente Passato prossimo
    deo/eo esso
    tue èssis
    issu/issa/isse èssit
    nòis essìmus
    bòis essìdes
    issos/issas/isses èssin
    deo/eo so essidu
    tue ses essidu
    issu/issa/isse est essidu/a
    nòis semus essidos
    bòis sèzis/sètis essidos
    issos/issas/isses sun essidos/as

    Imperfetto

    Trapassato prossimo
    deo/eo essìa/essìo
    tue essisti
    issu/issa/isse essìat
    nòis essìmis
    bòis essìzis/essìtis
    issos/issas/isses essìan
    deo/eo fia/fio essidu
    tue fisti essidu
    issu/issa/isse fit essidu/a
    nòis fìmis essidos
    bòis fìzis/fìtis essidos
    issos/issas/isses fin essidos/as

    Passato remoto

    Trapassato remoto
    deo/eo essìa/essìo
    tue essisti
    issu/issa/isse essìat
    nòis essìmis
    bòis essìzis/essìtis
    issos/issas/isses essìan
    deo/eo fia/fio istadu essidu
    tue fisti istadu essidu
    issu/issa/isse fit istadu/a essidu/a
    nòis fìmis istados essidos
    bòis fìzis/fìtis istados essidos
    issos/issas/isses fin istados/as essidos/as

    Futuro semplice
    (The Simple Future in Sardinian is composed by Indicative Present of to Have +A/AD + Infinitive of the other verb)

    Futuro anteriore
    deo/eo happo a essire
    tue has a essire
    issu/issa/isse hat a essire
    nòis hamus a essire
    bòis hàzis/hàtis a essire
    issos/issas/isses han a essire
    deo/eo happo a essere essidu
    tue has a essere essidu
    issu/issa/isse hat a essere essidu/a
    nòis hamus a essere essidos
    bòis hàzis/hàtis a essere essidos
    issos/issas/isses han a essere essidos/as
    CONGIUNTIVO
    Presente Passato
    qui deo/eo essa
    qui tue èssas
    qui issu/issa/isse èssat
    qui nòis essèmus
    qui bòis essèdas
    qui issos/issas/isses èssan
    qui deo/eo essère essidu
    qui tue essères essidu
    qui issu/issa/isse essèret essidu/a
    qui nòis esserèmus essidos
    qui bòis esserèdes/esserèdas essidos
    qui issos/issas/isses essèren essidos/as

    Imperfetto

    Trapassato
    qui deo/eo essère
    qui tue essères
    qui issu/issa/isse essèret
    qui nòis esserèmus
    qui bòis esserèdes/esserèdas
    qui issos/issas/isses essèren/essèran
    qui deo/eo essère istadu essidu
    qui tue essères istadu essidu
    qui issu/issa/isse essèret istadu/a essidu/a
    qui nòis esserèmus istados essidos
    qui bòis esserèdas istados essidos
    qui issos/issas/isses essèren istados/as essidos/as

    CONDIZIONALE
    Presente
    (In Sardinian the Conditional Tense is composed by Subjunctive Present of To Give + Infinitive of the other verb)
    deo/eo dia essire
    tue dìas essire
    issu/issa/isse dìat essire
    nòis dièmus essire
    bòis dièdas essire
    issos/issas/isses dìan/dìen essire
    Passato
    deo/eo dia essere essidu
    tue dìas essere essidu
    issu/issa/isse dìat essere essidu/a
    nòis dièmus essere essidos
    bòis dièdas essere essidos
    issos/issas/isses dìan/dìen essere essidos/as
    IMPERATIVO
    Presente

    Singolare
    2nd : essi
    3rd : èssat
    Plurale
    1st : essimus
    2nd :
    esside
    3rd :
    èssan

    INFINITO
    Presente
    Essire

    Passato
    Singolare
    Essere Essidu/a

    Plurale
    Essere Essidos/as
    PARTICIPIO
    Presente
    Essende

    Passato
    Singolare
    Essidu/a

    Plurale
    Essidos/as
    GERUNDIO
    Presente
    Essende

    Passato
    Singolare
    Essende Essidu/a

    Plurale
    Essende Essidos/as
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    ERRATA CORRIGE : That above was the IVth CONJUGATION, not the IIIrd
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