Antidepressants - are they harmful?

[Caismeachd]

I think the speedy ones are harmful. effexor, ritalin etc. The other ones like wellbutrin are bad because they boost your dopamine levels and if you get off them your body will crash and maybe not produce enough dopamine anymore. It sort of turns people into drug addicts. I think they really should be used as a last resort. Knew a girl who took mild anti-psychotic meds (meds that are proven over long term to cause brain damage) and she was retarded and messed up as hell. Anti-psychotics are really dangerous. Never taken them myself fortunately.

They are way over prescribed to people. They are an easy option.

I know when I was on wellbutrin I would get really manic/aggressive. I'd start fights and just be crazy aggressive all the time. I'd get really bad panic attacks as well while on that stuff. Severe flight or fight responses going 24/7. So the doctors answer to that was to prescribe even more medication (zoloft) and that just made me feel apathetic and even more depressed.

I'm not on anything anymore and I feel great.

A lot of what makes people depressed or mentally fucked up is circumstance and not some BS chemical imbalance. (They have no test to show you are chemically imbalanced. It's all BS). It's all a load of crap.

[Neanderthal]

Thank you very much for what you wrote.
All those 'specialists' I tell you, they only want to get this over with asap.
Almost every polish 'specialist' is like this, they give you the heaviest drugs, take your money and you are on your own.

I was taking some light SSRI, rather small doses - for the period of 6 months.
I am 'sober' since January, and I am not sure if I feel any better.
Still wondering if I was feeling better before the therapy or now, guess I will never know for sure.

I hope my brain isn't damaged yet, lol.

You can recover. I did. It just takes a lot of time, months, even years. No permanent damage done. Have you been in a mental hospital? Meds do fuck up patients in odd ways over the course of years, not really months.

[Vorpal]

Good picture- NorepinephrineDopamineSerotonin
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eSerotonin.png

So low serotonin causes sensory dissatisfaction/ insensibility, paranoia, anxiety.

I'm not sure if I get it but thanks.

[Vorpal]

You can recover. I did. It just takes a lot of time, months, even years. No permanent damage done. Have you been in a mental hospital? Meds do fuck up patients in odd ways over the course of years, not really months.

Never been in any sort of mental hospital. I was diagnosed with a light depression after all, but I was having a really hard time in my life, both combined = tragedy.
I hope you are right, you must be!

[gold_fenix]

For my own experience a total shit, i was taking escitolopram during a month, i was only sleeping and sleeping, i was only awake for to eat

[Ultra]

Yeah, I think they are. I was on SSRIs for a while and it just made me apathetic. I actually gave less fucks about fixing my problems than I did before, and then I had a few moments where I would just get locked into a very strange state of mood which was impossible for me to get out from. I can't really describe it other than that I felt like absolute shit, but still not sad or depressed or anything. I felt NOTHING really. It was horrible. And then my dick also got quite limp and I overall felt very weak physically, and lacked this feeling of any "manly vigour" what so all. I decided to get off that shit early because of all the side-effects I were having(which everyone has more or less) and a week after I just hadn't felt any better before in a long time. I started lifting weights more frequently and with passion and working on improving my body and mind ever since I stopped and I've never felt better before than I do now.


Don't take that shit bro. I am convinced it fucks up your brain. I still felt these side-effects at times for many weeks after. You usually feel bad because, well, your life is bad. You gotta work on it.

[Breedingvariety]

I'm not sure if I get it but thanks.

The picture shows what particular chemicals in the brain regulate.

Dopamine is the most pleasurable. Opiates work as dope. Cocaine floods all three. Meth-norepinephrine and dope. MDMA- serotonin and norepinephrine.

[Vorpal]

I think the speedy ones are harmful. effexor, ritalin etc. The other ones like wellbutrin are bad because they boost your dopamine levels and if you get off them your body will crash and maybe not produce enough dopamine anymore. It sort of turns people into drug addicts. I think they really should be used as a last resort. Knew a girl who took mild anti-psychotic meds (meds that are proven over long term to cause brain damage) and she was retarded and messed up as hell. Anti-psychotics are really dangerous. Never taken them myself fortunately.

They are way over prescribed to people. They are an easy option.

I know when I was on wellbutrin I would get really manic/aggressive. I'd start fights and just be crazy aggressive all the time. I'd get really bad panic attacks as well while on that stuff. Severe flight or fight responses going 24/7. So the doctors answer to that was to prescribe even more medication (zoloft) and that just made me feel apathetic and even more depressed.

I'm not on anything anymore and I feel great.

A lot of what makes people depressed or mentally fucked up is circumstance and not some BS chemical imbalance. (They have no test to show you are chemically imbalanced. It's all BS). It's all a load of crap.

It seems to be a self-propelling mechanism. Fucking sick.

1) tell people they have a problem, prescribe them something to fuck them up, ergo: now they really have a problem.
2) prescribe them another 'magical drug'
3) repeat
4) profit

Specialist response: Feeling sorry for all those naive fuckers who got their brains damaged this way, but hey, doctors need money too!

[Vorpal]

Yeah, I think they are. I was on SSRIs for a while and it just made me apathetic. I actually gave less fucks about fixing my problems than I did before, and then I had a few moments where I would just get locked into a very strange state of mood which was impossible for me to get out from. I can't really describe it other than that I felt like absolute shit, but still not sad or depressed or anything. I felt NOTHING really. It was horrible. And then my dick also got quite limp and I overall felt very weak physically, and lacked this feeling of any "manly vigour" what so all. I decided to get off that shit early because of all the side-effects I were having(which everyone has more or less) and a week after I just hadn't felt any better before in a long time. I started lifting weights more frequently and with passion and working on improving my body and mind ever since I stopped and I've never felt better before than I do now.


Don't take that shit bro. I am convinced it fucks up your brain. I still felt these side-effects at times for many weeks after. You usually feel bad because, well, your life is bad. You gotta work on it.

Yeah, I had the same feeling of total emptiness.
I wasn't happy, I wasn't feeling any better, I just didn't care anymore about anything.
I'm glad I cancelled this, never again.

Physical exercises work very well, that's also true.

[Neanderthal]

It seems to be a self-propelling mechanism. Fucking sick.

1) tell people they have a problem, prescribe them something to fuck them up, ergo: now they really have a problem.
2) prescribe them another 'magical drug'
3) repeat
4) profit

Specialist response: Feeling sorry for all those naive fuckers who got their brains damaged this way, but hey, doctors need money too!

Basically if you feel depressed, there must be a tangible reason for this, is not actually that your brain chemistry is fucked up. And doctors tell you the opposite; you cannot perform well and adapt to your daily life because your brain is fucked up. Instead of solving the real problem. What are the odds for the nature to create a self destructive organism? Not many eh? Fucking pseudo scientific pigs, they just want to sell their meds.