23andme VS FTDNA y-DNA Test Results

[Isleño]

FTDNA is more accurate than 23andme regarding haplogroups, yes.

[StonyArabia]

E1b lineages can be confusing.

[curupira]

In terms of haplogroups i would trust in FTDNA.

Yep, on both yDNA and mtDNA FamilyTreeDNA is better. MyOrigins is catching up with 23andme on the autosomal too.

[Yehiel]

Yep, on both yDNA and mtDNA FamilyTreeDNA is better. MyOrigins is catching up with 23andme on the autosomal too.

my current MyOrigins is much more accurate than the new 23andme..

[Anglojew]

Congrats on your indigenousness to Israel/Palestine.

What is the paper about in simple words:
There are about 8% of Jewish male lines and some percent of Arabian male lines originated from a man called E1b1b1c1 and about 4% of Jewish male lines and some percent of Arabian male lines originated from another man called E1b1b1c1a. E1b1b1c1a was a descendant of E1b1b1c1. We wanted to check if the common ancestor of the Jews and the Arabs E1b1b1c1 or E1b1b1c1a was biblical Abraham. How did we study it? It is known that the descendants of Abraham are the Israelites, the Jewish priests — Cohens, the Arabs and the Seyyids. If Abraham was E1b1b1c1 or E1b1b1c1a, the calculated time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) of the Israelites', Cohens' and Arabian E1b1b1c1 or E1b1b1c1a lines would be about 4000 years before present (lifetime of biblical Abraham) and 1400 years before present for the Seyyids (lifetime of imam Ali). We calculated different times for the groups listed above, so Abraham could not be E1b1b1c1 or E1b1b1c1a.
Other conclusions of the paper:
- the ancestors of the Jews of E1b1b1c1 and E1b1b1c1a lines were included in Jewish community during the conquest of Canaan.
- the Jewish and Arabian E1b1b1c1a lines are close one to the other, their common ancestor lived 4080±1440 years ago, so, most probably, both are descendants of ancient Canaanites.

http://myfamilytree.livejournal.com/71106.html

Keep in mind the use of the term "Arab/Arabian" above is linguistic. In reality you're Levantine not Arabian. You're a member of the Bani Isra'il

[Maleficent]

Congrats on your indigenousness to Israel/Palestine.



http://myfamilytree.livejournal.com/71106.html

Keep in mind the use of the term "Arab/Arabian" above is linguistic. In reality you're Levantine not Arabian. You're a member of the Bani Isra'il

Well hahaha, I already knew all of this information, dude.

[Anglojew]

Well hahaha, I already knew all of this information, dude.

Fair enough. I wonder if your ancestors were literally Jewish, or pre-Jewish Israelites, or common Canaanite ancestors of both Palestinians and Jews?

[Maleficent]

Fair enough. I wonder if your ancestors were literally Jewish, or pre-Jewish Israelites, or common Canaanite ancestors of both Palestinians and Jews?

Hmm, I really thought about it, and the best answer I can come up with is that not even Jews themselves will be able to properly answer this question about themselves. Considering there's not really any proper human historical documentation from 25,000 years ago(for example).

The thing is, all we really know is with DNA testing and Semitic haplogroups, there's only two divisions and that's it: Jewish and Arab. If you know you're of Semitic lineage and you get yourself involved in DNA testing, at the end of the day you're either a Jew or an Arab and that's all there is to it. Be merry and be happy.

[Anglojew]

Hmm, I really thought about it, and the best answer I can come up with is that not even Jews themselves will be able to properly answer this question about themselves. Considering there's not really any proper human historical documentation from 25,000 years ago(for example).

The thing is, all we really know is with DNA testing and Semitic haplogroups, there's only two divisions and that's it: Jewish and Arab. If you know you're of Semitic lineage and you get yourself involved in DNA testing, at the end of the day you're either a Jew or an Arab and that's all there is to it. Be merry and be happy.

The common ancestor is much more recent though (4080BP±1440). I think you're probably genetically an Arabised Jew/Israelite like most Palestinians.

[Maleficent]

The common ancestor is much more recent though (4080BP±1440). I think you're probably genetically an Arabised Jew/Israelite like most Palestinians.

Well I can't accept that anyway because that insinuates that Palestinian Christians and Muslims are the same and I'm not changing my belief that the Christians and Muslims are completely different ethnicities and histories.