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    Quote Originally Posted by SardiniaAtlantis View Post
    Maliki is a Kurd. So long as he is in power maybe Kurds will say he doesn't do much for them but they are safe, and Kurdistan much more prosperous. Maliki is great.
    Maliki is not a Kurd, he is a Shia Arab and he does have political power, and actually he was still and is on dispute with Kurds especially toward Kirkuk and few other cities. Talbani who is the president of Iraq but wields no political power other than representative title is a Kurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Maliki is not a Kurd, he is a Shia Arab and he does have political power, and actually he was still and is on dispute with Kurds especially toward Kirkuk and few other cities. Talbani who is the president of Iraq but wields no political power other than representative title is a Kurd.
    Right I meant Talbani.... He might not wield any power you say, but I know that since hes been president Kurds have been much better off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SardiniaAtlantis View Post
    Right I meant Talbani.... He might not wield any power you say, but I know that since hes been president Kurds have been much better off.
    Well Kurds are better off because, they got autonomy, and now they are actually de facto independent not really due to his efforts, and as well help from the Americans. However the Iraqi central government does not want to them to secede, Though historically they had better cultural and linguistic rights in Iraq before the 1980's, than in any of the nations they reside, this of course changed, but then the country itself went to downward spiral that it seems it can't climb up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Well Kurds are better off because, they got autonomy, and now they are actually de facto independent not really due to his efforts, and as well help from the Americans. However the Iraqi central government does not want to them to secede, Though historically they had better cultural and linguistic rights in Iraq before the 1980's, than in any of the nations they reside, this of course changed, but then the country itself went to downward spiral that it seems it can't climb up.
    Of course they dont want them to secede it would take a war for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SardiniaAtlantis View Post
    Of course they dont want them to secede it would take a war for that.
    Yes, but I doubt a war will happen, and it's quite complex. The Kurds might get their state eventually, and the rest will broken apart or the borders altered. None of the leaders of Iraq are really for Iraq, there only it for the money but not for the nation or people, this why it's chaotic but if there was a good leader like Ayad Jamal Al-din such matters would not have occurred and Iraq could have stood on it's two feet. They need to look at Oman as a role model.
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    I love it when US foreign policy scores own goals
    Has the US really scored an own goal?

    Maybe, but while it might be a tantalizing thought, what will the final score be?


    Oh, and I wouldn't bet on those Sukhois being a total game changer, either. ISIS are in business and they mean business.

    The Kurds might get their state eventually, and the rest will broken apart or the borders altered.
    Agreed, this is what they are heading towards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Oh, and I wouldn't bet on those Sukhois being a total game changer, either. ISIS are in business and they mean business.
    ISIS will be destroyed, one way or another. Syria and Iraq are not exactly the Afghan mountains.
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    Maliki is a joke, and he is not PM anymore. He needs jets for what? To hand them over to ISIS.

    The Kurds have done it without jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    ISIS will be destroyed, one way or another. Syria and Iraq are not exactly the Afghan mountains.
    Not while they are still getting support from the US and allies.

    Some people might think that the US etc are against ISIS because they laid a few eggs on them here and there. Alas, that is not the case, as many users on here already know.

    Should the US decide to attack ISIS everywhere, and cut off all support, they could be destroyed. If they continue their very selective attacks, it would seem they actually want ISIS to maintain control of some territory... territory earmarked as a future Sunni State, perhaps?
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