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    People really interested in Finnish genetics should look up on the Finnish Y-DNA subclades of N1c and I1 haplogroups and their estimated ages before making theories out of their head.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    People really interested in Finnish genetics should look up on the Finnish Y-DNA subclades of N1c and I1 haplogroups and their estimated ages before making theories out of their head.
    Geez, I am only repeating what I heard from forum Finns, these aren't my own theories. I don't understand why when an outsider talks about it suddenly becomes a sensitive topic for you.

    Speaking of estimated ages, here you go:

    The estimated time of admixture is 86.095 +/- 10.187 generations, or 2500 +/- 300 years. It corresponds rather well to the beginning of the Iron Age in northern Europe.

    As I mention in my previous post, there is evidence for intrusive cultures (Battle Axe and Seima Turbino) converging on the area from different directions during the preceding Bronze Age. If the above date is accurate, it will suggest a rather late admixture event between the Europeoid and Siberian elements of Finns. The former may have included both the descendants of Mesolithic European hunter-gatherers and intruders from Central Europe (Corded Ware/Battle Axe); the latter may have included both Comb Ceramic and the descendants of the Seima Turbino metallurgists.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10...for-finns.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptile View Post
    Geez, I am only repeating what I heard from forum Finns, these aren't my own theories. I don't understand why when an outsider talks about it suddenly becomes a sensitive topic for you.

    Speaking of estimated ages, here you go:



    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10...for-finns.html
    I am not talking about some possible admix event in Finland, I am talking about the subclades of N1c1 and I1 haplogroups found in Finland.
    Where do they originate and where do they spread?

    There is nothing sensitive about it to Finns or Estonians, it could be sensitive to Scandinavians, Russians and Balts.

    http://www.yfull.com/tree/N/

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...x?section=ymap

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...x?section=ymap

    Do point us to this eastern invasion, or is it easter invasion?
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu8D9GaQwIs

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    ^ I don't know your story. Obviously I am talking about something far from my sphere of understanding if you have seen my photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptile View Post
    ^ I don't know your story. Obviously I am talking about something far from my sphere of understanding if you have seen my photos.
    Yep, there is no story of mongoloid siberians coming to take scandinavian maidens from the shores of baltic.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


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    ^That's pretty much how I imagined it. Creepy Uralid stalking through the forest, spots his victim and puts her on his reindeer sleigh and takes off. So romantic :boohoo:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptile View Post
    ^That's pretty much how I imagined it. Creepy Uralid stalking through the forest, spots his victim and puts her on his reindeer sleigh and takes off. So romantic :boohoo:
    Yes and also kill and enslave the germanic warriors first with bone arrows.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Yes and also kill and enslave the germanic warriors first with bone arrows.
    Haha. I know you're being sarcastic but I'm semi-serious. What else do you have in mind? Peaceful spread of Uralic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptile View Post
    Haha. I know you're being sarcastic but I'm semi-serious. What else do you have in mind? Peaceful spread of Uralic?
    It is possible, we have close cultural and trade connections based on archeological finds, maybe the merger happened just trough tribal confederations and common interests.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


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    Quote Originally Posted by Armstrong01 View Post
    Genetically, Finns including south western Finns are more similar to Karelians, Vepsa and northern Russians than to Estonians. In fact, the closest populations to Finns the ones I mentioned : http://postimg.org/image/5t3d2j8mf/full/

    Also MDS plot from published study : http://www.plosone.org/article/fetch...e.0058552.s003
    Actually I was asking about ethnolinguistic and cultural groups involved in the making of the people and not genetics. I know they are close to baltics and north russians.

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