Same-Sex Marriage - For Or Against

[Anglojew]

I think the issue of same-sex marriage has huge ramifications for Western society as it pits traditional laws and Judeo-Christian religious traditions against newer concepts of the individual, human and civil rights.

Same-sex marriage (also known as gay marriage) is marriage between two people of the same biological sex and/or gender identity. Legal recognition of same-sex marriage or the possibility to perform a same-sex marriage is sometimes referred to as marriage equality or equal marriage, particularly by supporters. The legalization of same-sex marriage is characterized as "redefining marriage" by many opponents

For me it is a battle between Judeo-Christian traditions, previously reflected by law for almost 2,000 years, from;

...342 AD Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans issued a law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) prohibiting same-sex marriage in Rome and ordering execution for those so married

The Judeo-Christian concept of marriage stems from biblical passages such as;

Genesis 2:22-24

Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman, ' for she was taken out of man." For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

The biblical passages against homosexuality are clearly defined;

Leviticus 18:22

Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

Marriage evolved in time to reflect various rights and responsibilities -involving both property and offspring- within a legal framework such as;

A marriage bestows rights and obligations on the married parties, and sometimes on relatives as well, being the sole mechanism for the creation of affinal ties (in-laws). These may include, depending on jurisdiction:

-Giving a husband/wife or his/her family control over a spouse's sexual services, labor, and property.
-Giving a husband/wife responsibility for a spouse's debts.
-Giving a husband/wife visitation rights when his/her spouse is incarcerated or hospitalized.
-Giving a husband/wife control over his/her spouse's affairs when the spouse is incapacitated.
-Establishing the second legal guardian of a parent's child.
-Establishing a joint fund of property for the benefit of children.
-Establishing a relationship between the families of the spouses.

Edmund Leach defined marriage in terms of;

- To establish a legal father of a woman's children.
-To establish a legal mother of a man's children.
-To give the husband a monopoly in the wife's sexuality.
-To give the wife a monopoly in the husband's sexuality.
-To give the husband partial or monopolistic rights to the wife's domestic and other labour services.
-To give the wife partial or monopolistic rights to the husband's domestic and other labour services.
-To give the husband partial or total over property belonging or potentially accruing to the wife.
-To give the wife partial or total over property belonging or potentially accruing to the husband.
-To establish a joint fund of property – a partnership – for the benefit of the children of the marriage.
-To establish a socially significant 'relationship of affinity' between the husband and his wife's brothers."

In our modern Western societies traditional taboos against homosexuality have been largely overturned due to changes civil and human rights laws yet this is not yet reflected in religious reform (and may never be) by the Catholic Church and other major religious denominations in the West for instance;

This remains the current view of Orthodox Judaism, but not of Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism and Conservative Judaism, which started changing its position to same-sex unions in 2006

Now though, especially in some US States, we have an ironic situation whereby those who oppose homosexual marriage for religious reasons find themselves the ones persecuted such as the infamous case early this year when the Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich was esentially forced to resign for his opposition to "Gay" marriage.

So what are your thoughts?

Are you for or against same-sex marriage?

[Dictator]

Only Civil marriage. Forcing churches to do same-sex religious marriages is something that I won't tolerate.

[zhaoyun]

My stance is

Not my fucking business

[Yaroslav]

I oppose all forms of lust and sexual perversion, let alone a mockery of the Holy Matrimony.

[Harley]

What makes it anyone's right to legally impose on another's lifestyle?

Yes, that goes both ways, with keeping gay people from marrying each other and forcing those who oppose gay marriage to marry them.

Force is not the answer :-/.

Don't know about anyone else, but the more someone tries to force me to do something, the more stubborn I become. Forcing anyone to do something they don't want to do will only justify a possibly more close minded belief that they're committing the right action.

[Yaroslav]

Only Civil marriage.

How dare you call yourself a Catholic. Burn in hell you vile, perverted pig.

[Yaroslav]

My stance is

Not my fucking business

Individualism is heresy. Even the CPC knows that.

[Yaroslav]

What makes it anyone's right to legally impose on another's lifestyle?

Yes, that goes both ways, with keeping gay people from marrying each other and forcing those who oppose gay marriage to marry them.

Force is not the answer :-/.

Don't know about anyone else, but the more someone tries to force me to do something, the more stubborn I become. Forcing anyone to do something they don't want to do will only justify a possibly more close minded belief that they're committing the right action.

Another degenerate subhuman. Go down to hell where you belong.

[Harley]

Another degenerate subhuman. Go down to hell where you belong.

You broke my thumbs down cherry.

That means you have to marry me now to keep us both from going down to your imaginary hell.

[Yaroslav]

You broke my thumbs down cherry.

That means you have to marry me now to keep us both from going down to your imaginary hell.

I'd rather do something else to you, the marriage won't be necessary at all...