Native American confronts 'anti-illegal immigration' protesters in the US

[LightHouse89]

Carrying teepees and eating buffalo blood pudding does not constitute ownership the same way that owning a house and farming the same land for years alongside your ancestral brethren does.



Usually Spanish names actually.

East coast natives are partially or fully European by now and have American-anglo surnames and first names. They are so mixed they do not look like other natives out west who are more pure blood. I know a lot of people with distant local native ancestry. I wouldn't be shocked on my dad's side if I have heron native ancestry from the metis. So I am indigenous. Fuck foreigners.

[Siberyak]

If the lands belongs to no one, than I assume none of you would have a problem if millions of africans, arabs, middle eastern, north africans, asians would come and live in your country, take your jobs, kill you, fuck your daughters and wives, which is basically happening in western, central and northern europe?

I guess you're lucky living in a paradise like Albania. The last country in Europe that would be attractive for a 3rd immigrant to move too.

[LightHouse89]

Meh my major problem is the double standards. Beyond that I really have no other issue with the situation. Descendents of colonials had just about as much choice being born here as the African American decendents of slaves did. Any African or White American whose line has been here for generations is about as American as it gets. Calling them immigrants is retarded literally because it goes against the very definition of an immigrant. How the fuck can you settle somewhere you were already born in lol. This is my gripe with the term native. ALL Americans no matter their color born here should be a native. Its time to cut the bullshit. We belong nowhere else but in America. Uh unless Britain, Germany, India, Japan, West Africa, China, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Sweden is prepared to take us all back?

No. I am indigenous to my area. Blacks and others are foreigners to me. The government back then should have made slavery illegal and deported the blacks back to Africa.

[Sikeliot]

The irony is that most of the illegal immigrants are part Indigenous themselves.. but the argument against what he is saying is that there were no immigration policies to break when Europeans came over, because the natives didn't have any.

[portusaus]

Meh my major problem is the double standards. Beyond that I really have no other issue with the situation. Descendents of colonials had just about as much choice being born here as the African American decendents of slaves did. Any African or White American whose line has been here for generations is about as American as it gets. Calling them immigrants is retarded literally because it goes against the very definition of an immigrant. How the fuck can you settle somewhere you were already born in lol. This is my gripe with the term native. ALL Americans no matter their color born here should be a native. Its time to cut the bullshit. We belong nowhere else but in America. Uh unless Britain, Germany, India, Japan, West Africa, China, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Sweden is prepared to take us all back?

"African-Americans" and immigrants with ancestry outside of Europe are not Americans. Nor are they natives, they were just here.

Americans:

[LightHouse89]

You can apply that logic to any nation .

no and yes. But most white people on the east coast have native American ancestry. especially colonials. The Algonquin tribe heavily mixed with Europeans here. That's why there are almost no reservations here because they intermingled with Northern Europeans. So technically we are indigenous to this area.

[Jägerstaffel]

Carrying teepees and eating buffalo blood pudding does not constitute ownership the same way that owning a house and farming the same land for years alongside your ancestral brethren does.

This is a misconception of Native American civilisation. In some areas they created vast complex settled communities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_Builders

From my understanding, European mindset of a vast unused landscape developed because by the time most European settlers reached Native American territories - large swathes of the population had been killed off by disease that preceded their arrival.

This isn't to say that there were not nomadic hunter gathering tribes, but they were not all like that.

[Sikeliot]

Also it is ironic that in the US most "natives" look less Amerindian than the average Mexican does. Personally illegal immigration doesn't bother me, but it's likely the immigrants are more indigenous to the continent than the average "Native American" in the US.

[Kastrioti1443]

I guess you're lucky living in a paradise like Albania. The last country in Europe that would be attractive for a 3rd immigrant to move too.

What has this to do with the thread? I am living pretty well actually, but you being there for 1 week does not make you an expert, so better shut the fuck up about this.

This is mostly a discussion of principals, so do not mention countries.

[Armando Esteban Quito]

The irony is that most of the illegal immigrants are part Indigenous themselves.. but the argument against what he is saying is that there were no immigration policies to break when Europeans came over, because the natives didn't have any.

Even if the Natives had immigration policies back then, that wouldn't have stopped the Europeans from colonizing.

Anyway apart from the fact that immigration laws are so lax and under-enforced; they are nothing but a man-made concept.