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Thread: Is Denial Of The Armenian Genocide The Same As Holocaust Denial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    They need to follow Israel's example after 70 years of the Arab Boycott. The boycott has had the opposite effect because Israel had to create it's own industries because it couldn't rely on others.
    It's not that easy. Israel has the backing of the USA. Armenia has noone. It is a powerless country of 3 million people surrounded by hostile neighbours and Turkey the regional bully also happens to be a geostrategic ally of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    It's not that easy. Israel has the backing of the USA. Armenia has noone. It is a powerless country of 3 million people surrounded by hostile neighbours and Turkey the regional bully also happens to be a geostrategic ally of America.
    Russia has a base in Armenia. Isn't Russia the major ally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Russia has a base in Armenia. Isn't Russia the major ally?
    They do, although Russia views Armenia more as a protectorate. It's nothing like the relationship that Israel has with USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    They do, although Russia views Armenia more as a protectorate. It's nothing like the relationship that Israel has with USA
    Obama is no friend of Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Obama is no friend of Israel.
    Maybe so, but USA has a strong Jewish presence in positions that count and a powerful Jewish lobby. Jews have contributed a lot to America and share genuine friendly ties with USA. It is also in the interests of USA to have a friendly ally in a hostile region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    Maybe so, but USA has a strong Jewish presence in positions that count and a powerful Jewish lobby. Jews have contributed a lot to America and share genuine friendly ties with USA. It is also in the interests of USA to have a friendly ally in a hostile region.
    Yes, but Jews are also prominent in Anti-Israel circles for instance eg George Soros, Noam Chomsky etc

    Many prominent Jews a in government, media and academia are ignorant self-haters who should be forced to live in Gaza as traitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Holocaust denial is often cited for criticism however on this forum I've learned that almost no Turk will admit to the Armenian Genocide even though;





    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

    I've noticed Turks either deny the genocide completely or sometimes tacitly acknowledge it by seeking to justify it.

    Is denial of the Armenian Genocide the same or similar to Holocaust denial?



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    1Rummel, RJ (1 April 1998), "The Holocaust in Comparative and Historical Perspective", The Journal of Social Issues 3 (2)

    2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
    I would say it's worse. now before all you jews thumb me down, hear me out: a lot of wartime propaganda has exaggerated nazi atrocities. Things once universally believed are now universally discounted, such as human skin lampshades, jew hair mattresses, etc.
    My friend David Cole is jewish, and pro-israel, and when he came out questioning the numbers and attacking soviet tampering with archaeology because "the exaggerations and lies make room for people to deny the real horrors. "
    So yes, some people say nothing but deportations happened. I take the middle of the road stance because I've read Goebbel's diaries and think that a certain amount of mass execution of prisoners suspected of sabotage without any form of process began in 42-43, and massive slave labour as well as deportations happened.


    Now, I've lived around Armenians most of my life, and I do think they make a big hooplah about remembrance in a whiny way -
    but there's no exaggerations. The Armenians claim they were marched out and many raped and shot, similar to the trail of tears but with a lot more raping and killing.
    There are no fantastic tails of bars of soap or of lampshades.

    There is ONLY the claim of mass murder, rape, and forced dislocation and dispossession.
    To deny that is bullshit and can be done only out of national arrogance or ethnic hate.
    I'm looking for people like me, who are crazy, fun, and not afraid of life. and one day when I find them, we'll escape, we'll break out of the zoo.

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    I think it is, many Armenians and Assyrians were massacred, it was a genocide .

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    Zionist fucks tend to think has right to do anything after holocost. Back in the days, After collapse of ottoman empire people suffered to much, especially last days ittihad and terakki hijacked ottoman tolerence and butchered armenians with kurds. That is fact, but at least we are trying to deal with our past, we started a peace process with kurds and made a few step to armenians (their hatred ended everything though)

    But look at israel, that bitches killing muslim civillians, stealing their land and killing innocent people. This is what you are, you get free pass to kill after 48 from western world, they allow you to do whatever you want to do. This is western world style, they keep silence when something happens, but after they pretend like they are justice angel. Briefly fuck off.

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    I might say that it is even worse to deny the Armenian genocide. It is an act to support a government that is more than willing to distort history and stay in power. Germany however is facing worldwide propaganda and hate so individual deniers are nothing and denying countries are also under pressure

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