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    Quote Originally Posted by Svanhild View Post
    How about handing over Crete to Germany in pledge of possible financial help?
    You had it before but you couldn't keep it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Svanhild View Post
    I can see no regret and no sign of reason in your reactions. You open the hands to take our money as if it's your hellenic right. Wake up: Ingratitude sucks.
    Germans know how to make money and Greeks how to spend it, I think we have a nice agreememnt here.
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    I have a better arrangement: why don't you Greeks work for it ?
    Why don't you guys go working your butts off in the way my (grand)fathers generation did and become a wealthy country like the Netherlands or Germany ?

    Stop being the Africans of Europe.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    I have a better arrangement: why don't you Greeks work for it ?
    Why don't you guys go working your butts off in the way my (grand)fathers generation did and become a wealthy country like the Netherlands or Germany ?
    Arhaic Mycenaneans, classical miracle, hellenistic kingdoms, mideval empires. It's now time for you younger european nations to work your way to the top.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Stop being the Africans of Europe.

    We're rather the pensioners of Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniot View Post
    Arhaic Mycenaneans, classical miracle, hellenistic kingdoms, mideval empires. It's now time for you younger european nations to work your way to the top.




    We're rather the pensioners of Europe.
    stop acting like a welfare nig and get a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerney View Post
    stop acting like a welfare nig and get a job.
    Et tu Brute?
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    I am not good at all with the banking/financial stuff so I can't understand who did exactly what and how this went mathematically wrong, but here's my two cents anyway:

    the Greeks aren't welfare niggers. But they are extremely naive and extremely materialistic and individualistic at the same time.

    The last two-three generations of Greeks fell for promises and lies for a better future, and willingly or not, they jumped into the bandwagon of corruption by voting over and over for the same two families that have been ruling (and ruining) Greece since the 70s.

    At first, let's say the people was naive, they wanted to get out of poverty and live an easier life. Everybody was getting their hands on a little slice of the pie. The governments kept stealing and embezzling the biggest slice, of course, but noone noticed or cared since everyone was busy living their nouveau riche dream.

    In the early 90s there also arose the capitalist trend through the media, and everyone wanted cell phones, faster cars, bigger homes, designer clothes, fancy vacations. Not only on a national level but also on an individual level, people got accustomed to the habit of loaning in order to satisfy their new materialistic needs.

    And while at first, let's say that as a people we got deceived and force-fed this nouveau riche lifestyle, after some point, those who keep endorsing it (by voting for the same corrupt governors, first and foremost), are either corrupt themselves, or criminally stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze Germans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniot View Post
    Et tu Brute?
    I'm just kidding, you know I'll enjoy spending that money with you this summer. That island's gonna be so nice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    people got accustomed to the habit of loaning in order to satisfy their new materialistic needs.
    I fear it are more people then just the Greeks. Let's not forget speculators* who use loaned money as a leverage effect to gain greater profits. Which all works fine and well if all goes well. But when things go wrong the leverage works the others way and the downs are also larger thanks to it.

    At the height of the crash last year if I had sold everything in my portofolio I would have only made a loss of around €10,-, not bad for something that is worth a lot more. But for the speculators it would be a lot worse, because now they have no big profits to pay back the loans with. So their losses increase .

    *I refuse calling them investors because they have more in common with gambling addicts.

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    'The Nazis took our gold, they should at least thank us': Greek PM's extraordinary attack on Germany over debt crisis

    Greece has launched an extraordinary attack on Germany over its debt crisis, accusing the nation of failing to offer compensation for the economic impact of the Nazi occupation.
    Deputy prime minister Theodoros Pangalos said the largest EU nation had no right to criticise Greece's finances, especially when the World War II occupation had wrecked its economy and slaughtered thousands

    Full story at:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...t-strikes.html

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