ROMANIAN UNIVERSITY STUDENTS. Why are average romanians so swarthy?

[TheForeigner]

I find Romanians a bit darker than us on average, but nothing remarkably swarthy about them.

What about hungarians? Stears says they are as light as british and germans,while you ethnic french are mostly ''wogs'' and he says the same of slovaks, southern slavs and most other europeans compared to hungarians.

[Rudel]

What about hungarians? Stears says they are as light as british and germans,while you ethnic french are mostly ''wogs'' and he says the same of slovaks, southern slavs and most other europeans compared to hungarians.

In my experience Hungarians are pretty much Central Euro and just in the middle of the spectrum.

[Vlach]

Bucharest, Iaaasi Constanța Ploiesti are not located in Dobrogea.

Constanta is in Dobrogea

Bucharest and Ploiesti are in Muntenia ( South Romania)

Iasi is in Moldova

[Amud]

A lot of them look Gypsy or part-Gypsy.

They are fairly similar to the Bulgarians I saw in another recent thread. Pontids (which is a blend of European Med with Arabid), Gorids (and some which look like the Asiatic Alpines of Coon), Gracile Indids (gypsy influence), a few Dinarics, some Nordic influence here and there, those are the main things I see here.

[Amud]

What about hungarians? Stears says they are as light as british and germans,while you ethnic french are mostly ''wogs'' and he says the same of slovaks, southern slavs and most other europeans compared to hungarians.

Hungarians are certainly not as light as the British and Germans. Have you seen the work of the Hungarian anthropologists? They even have plenty of very high-quality plates, some in color. Hungarians take their typology seriously. Most of them show elements like the Armenoid, Turanid, East Baltid/Uralid, and the Pamirid, a specialized Hungarian type which is a blend of Turanid (Mongoloid/Middle Eastern mix) with Armenoid elements.

Look at this thread on Anthroscape: http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/1265278/1/
You can see real Hungarian racial plates with a variety of Mongoloid and Middle East-influenced types.

These were all provided by Hungarian Anthropologists themselves, so it's unlikely that they would be cherrypicking non-white-looking people in some sort of biased way.

[TheForeigner]

A lot of them look Gypsy or part-Gypsy.

They are fairly similar to the Bulgarians I saw in another recent thread. Pontids (which is a blend of European Med with Arabid), Gorids (and some which look like the Asiatic Alpines of Coon), Gracile Indids (gypsy influence), a few Dinarics, some Nordic influence here and there, those are the main things I see here.

I mostly consider these trad anthropological ''subrace'' categories as b.s. pseudo-science, but where would arabid influence come and when? Pontid is supposedly a common type in SE Europe and is just a local mediteranean variety and I've read on this forum that it is mixture of mediteranean and baltid(north europid element). Some of the individual romanians in photos really are gypsies or gypsy admixed, while other are just swarthy romanians. Hard to say all the time since gypsies are also caucasian and they tend to hide their identity and be very paranoid and aggresive about that, as gypsy is great insult as well in Romania, mostly it is really great and unbearable insult for gypsy criminals though and I know very well from experience.

[Amud]

I mostly consider these trad anthropological ''subrace'' categories as b.s. pseudo-science, but where would arabid influence come and when? Pontid is supposedly a common type in SE Europe and is just a local mediteranean variety and I've read on this forum that it is mixture of mediteranean and baltid(north europid element). Some of the individual romanians in photos really are gypsies or gypsy admixed, while other are just swarthy romanians. Hard to say all the time since gypsies are also caucasian and they tend to hide their identity and be very paranoid and aggresive about that, as gypsy is great insult as well in Romania, mostly it is really great and unbearable insult for gypsy criminals though and I know very well from experience.

Here's what Coon has to say:

Along the northern and western shores of the Black Sea are found, among other populations, brunet Mediterraneans of a generalized type, called Pontic by the Russian anthropologists, who are usually of medium to tall stature and who seem related on the one hand to the Atlanto-Mediterraneans and on the other to the long-faced Mediterranean prototype of Asia Minor and the Caucasus. Inland from the Black Sea shores they are found sporadically in Russia, Poland, and the countries along the upper course of the Danube. They also seem to form an early population level in Serbia and Albania. Their precise archaeological history has not yet been traced, and their relationship to the Danubian invaders of central Europe at the beginning of the local Neolithic is unknown. They do not, however, conform closely to the physical type of the early Danubians as known to us by a small series of skeletal remains. Much more work needs to be done in southeastern Europe before their historical position and relationships can be established.

So I was wrong about the Arabid, it's more like a Turkish/Armenian Mediterranean type, which would probably be the Cappadocian-Mediterranean type described by some authors.

Here's the Cappadocian type of Lawrence Angel:



It's a sort of Middle Eastern Mediterranean type, this one was from Greece. The Pontid is intermediate between this Middle Eastern type and the European Mediterraneans.

[TheForeigner]

In hungarians some of this pontid and meditereanean, as well as dinaric types must come from the romano-illyric/paleobalkan substratum and from assimilated romanians. Don't know if celts also had such types.

[RussiaPrussia]

Hungary should take Transylvania back from gypsies

[Stears]

University students in bucharest.