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Thread: Should Israeli's worship Hitler?

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    Like their founding father or among those lines. Question is, would there be a Israel today if Hitler was never born?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    Like their founding father or among those lines. Question is, would there be a Israel today if Hitler was never born?
    The answer to the title is yes. The other answer is no.

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    We can't say a spesific answer about if hitler wouldn't exist, there wouldn't be israel. But I think partly "Yes" cause jews were planing to return holy land (according to Torah) since a few centuries before the genocide. Afterward the genocide, Jewish Leaders made a claim on some provinces of the land (Former Palestine).

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8PR8 View Post
    We can't say a spesific answer about if hitler wouldn't exist, there wouldn't be israel. But I think partly "Yes" cause jews were planing to return holy land (according to Torah) since a few centuries before the genocide. Afterward the genocide, Jewish Leaders made a claim on some provinces of the land (Former Palestine).
    Doesn't Torah stipulate their exile only ends with the will of god in form of messiah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    Doesn't Torah stipulate their exile only ends with the will of god in form of messiah?
    Orthodox Jews claim and believe that as I know. But I think it doesn't make any sense. There isn't any difference... (As a non jew) ja toch?

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    Returning to Canaan is an old Zionist idea, Hitler and the "Holocaust" were used as pretexts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubal View Post
    Returning to Canaan is an old Zionist idea, Hitler and the "Holocaust" were used as pretexts
    zionism=/=judaism

    zionism was born with nazism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    zionism=/=judaism

    zionism was born with nazism
    Yes of course, the idea of the Jewish state is Zionist

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    zionism was found along time before the holocaust and the mass jewish immigrations to israel were before the holocaust but the holocaust speeded it up.
    Last edited by EyeOfTheTiger; 07-27-2014 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    zionism=/=judaism

    zionism was born with nazism
    There was already Zionism in the 19th century...

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