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Thread: Should Israeli's worship Hitler?

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    I think the Holocaust speeded up the establishment of a state, however major Aliyahs were starting before the Holocaust, and we would have returned sooner or later.

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    The British would have given Israel to the Jews anyway.

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    They're doing a pretty good job of emulating him, so why not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    zionism=/=judaism

    zionism was born with nazism
    Judaism is not Zionism. Jews are an ethnoreligious community, so the religion and race are combined. Israel today: Historical Jewish Land. Nobody denies it, it's a historical fact. It does not mean Jews have right to colonise again on their historical land in my opinion anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yehiel View Post
    I think the Holocaust speeded up the establishment of a state, however major Aliyahs were starting before the Holocaust, and we would have returned sooner or later.
    Im not sure.
    Of course there were many interested to go back to the holy land but most Jews were quite comfortable in Poland/Germany/Russia and never had a desire to go back.
    (For example the Karaim wanted to go to Israel after the Holocaust)

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    Holohoax

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    jews were 30% of israel in 1939- 450,000 jews and 1,100,000 arabs, which is before the holocause.
    +balfoure declaration was declared in 1917, so i think that israel would be made without the holocaust.

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    Zionism was founded in 1895

    A Jewish homeland was already promised at the San Remo Conference of 1920.

    The opposite is true. Without Hitler it would have happened earlier. Please learn history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    The British would have given Israel to the Jews anyway.
    The British didn't create the Jewish homeland the UN did. In fact the British gave 78% of the land to the Arabs after it was promised to Jews at San Remo and banned Jews from settling there. They then restricted immigration of Jewish refugees to the remaining 22% so that many died in the holocaust.
    Last edited by Anglojew; 07-27-2014 at 10:26 PM.
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    When Balfour Declaration was written up, Hitler was just a lowly infantry reservist fighting in WW1...

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