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Thread: Maltese are literally Sicilian transplants, nothing more.

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    Default Maltese are literally Sicilian transplants, nothing more.

    I am sick of all the misinformation about the Maltese on here. No, they are not North African, no they are not Arab. They are simply Sicilian transplants from the past thousand years, and for much of that time they were considered Italian themselves and spoke Italian.

    They are, as any genetic test shows, identical to Sicilians.


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    It's too bad that Dienekes didn't ask for Maltese people to submit samples so that he could have a Maltese cluster at Dodecad.


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    Don't they have slightly less Northern European ancestry than do Sicilians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    Don't they have slightly less Northern European ancestry than do Sicilians?
    That's hard to achieve. I don't know honestly.

    I'd have to see their results on Dodecad or Eurogenes, but I think that they actually have less affinity to the Caucasus if anything, and 1-2% more North African on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I am sick of all the misinformation about the Maltese on here. No, they are not North African, no they are not Arab. They are simply Sicilian transplants from the past thousand years, and for much of that time they were considered Italian themselves and spoke Italian.

    They are, as any genetic test shows, identical to Sicilians.
    That's exactly right. They are pretty much identical. They surely are transplants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    Don't they have slightly less Northern European ancestry than do Sicilians?
    Actually Maltese do have slightly less northern Euro than Sicilians and has slightly more North African. Maltese are actually closer to Ashkenazis than Sicilians now that I remember their genetic results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleņo View Post
    Actually Maltese do have slightly less northern Euro than Sicilians and has slightly more North African. Maltese are actually closer to Ashkenazis than Sicilians now that I remember their genetic results.
    Sicilians, Maltese and Ashkenazi are all closer to one another than any of them is to anyone else. Greeks would be the next closest but they have more North Euro ancestry than the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I am sick of all the misinformation about the Maltese on here. No, they are not North African, no they are not Arab. They are simply Sicilian transplants from the past thousand years, and for much of that time they were considered Italian themselves and spoke Italian.

    They are, as any genetic test shows, identical to Sicilians.
    Now that I remember Maltese and Sicilian genetic results, Maltese are actually closer to Ashkenazis than Sicilians with slightly less Northern Euro than Sicilians and slightly more North African. So I think what happened is they were Sicilian transplants that picked up more North African along the way and that NA addition probably cut down some of their DNA and some of the northern got the chop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleņo View Post
    Now that I remember Maltese and Sicilian genetic results, Maltese are actually closer to Ashkenazis than Sicilians with slightly less Northern Euro than Sicilians and slightly more North African. So I think what happened is they were Sicilian transplants that picked up more North African along the way and that NA addition probably cut down some of their DNA and some of the northern got the chop
    But it also says the 3 populations are closer to one another than to anyone else (which is contrary to the notion that Greeks are exactly like Sicilians).

    There are regions of Sicily that would come up like Malta and others that would not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Sicilians, Maltese and Ashkenazi are all closer to one another than any of them is to anyone else. Greeks would be the next closest but they have more North Euro ancestry than the others.
    Yes true, Sicilians, Maltese and Ashkenazi are the closest to each other, with Greeks not exactly very close, but not far away. But, and I stress but, among the 3 that are close to each other, Maltese and Ashkenazis are closer to each other than to Sicilians. It's very slight, but noticeable.

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