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Thread: Maltese are literally Sicilian transplants, nothing more.

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    I don't speak Maltese at all, but (roughly) half the Maltese language is derived from Sicilian+Italian and the other half is roughly based on medieval Siculo-Arabic, so it's very easy for Maltese people to understand Sicilian, and if Maltese people want Sicilians to understand them, they know which words to use, and which to not use.

    For most words, they have an Arabic-form and a Romance-form.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    It's not hard to figure out why.

    If you take Sicilians from Messina and compare them to people from Malta and Gozo (the second largest island of the Republic of Malta), there will be differences, because Maltese peoples' ancestors did not come from Messina.

    If you take Sicilians from Syracuse, or Catania, the same story.

    But if you take Sicilians from Southern Trapani, Agrigento, and Caltanissetta, and you put their results next to a Maltese, they will look identical. Because Maltese are basically Southwestern Sicilians. That's where their families came from, and those areas coincidentally had the most Phoenician/Carthaginian/Arab/Berber admixture in Sicily.

    Eastern Sicily and Calabria are one genetic unit, characterized by very low North European admixture, and a high affinity to the Caucasus. "Exotic" elements, such as SW Asian, North African, are low. Western Sicily and Malta are another genetic unit, with higher SW Asian, North African, North European scores, with lower Caucasus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Eastern Sicily and Calabria are one genetic unit, characterized by very low North European admixture, and a high affinity to the Caucasus. "Exotic" elements, such as SW Asian, North African, are low. Western Sicily and Malta are another genetic unit, with higher SW Asian, North African, North European scores, with lower Caucasus.
    As I've mentioned to you previously, I have over 30% Caucasus on Dodecad K12b. I can only imagine what Eastern Sicilians have, if that's low.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    As I've mentioned to you previously, I have over 30% Caucasus on Dodecad K12b. I can only imagine what Eastern Sicilians have, if that's low.
    I thought you have said you score similarly to French people! When you first got your results for something it thought you were French. What is your Dodecad ID?

    Closer to 40%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What is your Dodecad ID?
    Don't remember. He hasn't updated in over a year, and he removed me because I submitted my grandmother without telling him that I was already part of the project.

    And I do cluster with the French on 23andMe. Northern Italians on Dodecad.

    First McDonald run, he said I was France + Lebanon, now he says I am Spain + Israel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    Don't remember. He hasn't updated in over a year, and he removed me because I submitted my grandmother without telling him that I was already part of the project.

    And I do cluster with the French on 23andMe. Northern Italians on Dodecad.

    First McDonald run, he said I was France + Lebanon, now he says I am Spain + Israel.

    Do you know your grandmother's number? Is she full Sicilian?

    How do you score 30% Caucasus but cluster in France??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Do you know your grandmother's number?
    He never emailed me back. I think he saw me as trying to lie to him or break the rules or whatever and got mad. I still think his project is better than the others, though.

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    Is she full Sicilian?
    Absolutely. Born and raised there.

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    How do you score 30% Caucasus but cluster in France??
    I don't score 30% Caucasus on 23andMe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    He never emailed me back. I think he saw me as trying to lie to him or break the rules or whatever and got mad. I still think his project is better than the others, though.


    Absolutely. Born and raised there.



    I don't score 30% Caucasus on 23andMe.
    Not on 23andme, you just said you score 30% Caucasus on Dodecad. How can someone with such admixture cluster in France?

    I am curious to see your grandmother's Dodecad results, to see what she gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Not on 23andme, you just said you score 30% Caucasus on Dodecad. How can someone with such admixture cluster in France?
    I told you, I cluster in Northern Italy on Dodecad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alfieb View Post
    I told you, I cluster in Northern Italy on Dodecad.
    How is that possible when you score 30% Caucasus? The North Euro score must be very high to pull you so far north.

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