Canarian Genetic Study

[Bell Beaker]

What I think will be quite a surprise for many, is that 1/3 of the population is purely European and has no Guanche ancestry. The other 2/3 does.

Are you talking about Canarians? After all i heard that Berberians were White, now the vast majority of Berbers are mixed with arabs. But there are some who never mixed with arabs.

[Isleño]

Are you talking about Canarians? After all i heard that Berberians were White, now the vast majority of Berbers are mixed with arabs. But there are some who never mixed with arabs.

Yes, I'm talking about Canarians. 2/3 of Canarians have Guanche admixture whether it's minor (50% of the population) or major (20% of the population), and 1/3 has none and is purely European.

As for Guanches vs. North African mainland Berbers, the Guanches were of the purest type of Berbers.

[Gaston]

As for Guanches vs. North African mainland Berbers, the Guanches were of the purest type of Berbers.

Not at all. When Spaniards conquered the Canaries, they brought with them West African slaves. Nowadays, Canarians can have West African ancestry as well as New World ancestry (wich comes with Native admix).

[Isleño]

Not at all. When Spaniards conquered the Canaries, they brought with them West African slaves. Nowadays, Canarians can have West African ancestry as well as New World ancestry (wich comes with Native admix).

Most of the West Africans were sent out to the Caribbean. I don't know what "New World ancestry" you are talking about, because nothing else shows up in DNA tests. The SSA in modern Canarians is very low, usually between 0%-3% and that's from the Guanches mainly who only had a few percent, nothing like in current North Africa. I'm 0.5% SSA and I'm 10% Guanche, you do the math.

[Isleño]

Interestingly, in contrast, I counted the Iberian samples and just under 50% show North African admixture, but very small for most of them. Only 4 samples had significant admixture and were at least about half or mostly North African, which is just under 20% of the total of those with NA admixture. The other "little more than 50%" looks to have none.

Iberia has a little less than double the percentage of those purely European than the Canary Islands and the Canary Islands has a little less than 1 1/2 times the percentage of people with NA admixture of any amount, than Iberia. It's interesting when you break it down like that.

[Wadaad]

Are you talking about Canarians? After all i heard that Berberians were White, now the vast majority of Berbers are mixed with arabs. But there are some who never mixed with arabs.

Berbers werent 'white' prior to mixing with arabs

Not according to themselves, nor to the Arabs...

[Isleño]

Berbers werent 'white' prior to mixing with arabs

Not according to themselves, nor to the Arabs...

That whole argument of who is white and who is not gets tiring because white changes from region to region and people who are seen as white can change over the years. Same with black.

[pinguino]

Berbers werent 'white' prior to mixing with arabs

Not according to themselves, nor to the Arabs...

Arabs are white?

[Wadaad]

Arabs are white?

My point is Arabization did not make Berbers non-white...since they never were white to begin with.

[Isleño]

Arabs are white?

In many parts of Latin America, Arab speaking Levantines such as Lebanese and some North Africans are seen as white. In other parts of the world they are not seen as white. That's why this "white" thing is tiring. No one can stick with a single definition of what white is. Look at the U.S., the government census created a definition for white and it's anyone with origins in Europe, the Middle East or North Africa. Literally the U.S. Census website has this in print. But in U.S. society, many only see Europeans as white, and some actually follow that U.S. Census definition. But again, "white" changes from region to region so it's tiresome. Same with "black". White and black are stupid classifications. I think people should go by ancestral region and ethno-racial classifications specific to their ancestral groups and throw this white, black, brown, red and yellow thing out the window.