Who is lighter an Englishman or an Irishman?

[Tooting Carmen]

I'm familiar with Irish looks. Nearly all are pale skinned. The majority (around 80% according to pigmentation studies) have dark brown or medium brown hair as adults, the other 20% is light haired (blonde, red, and light brown). In eye color they are no different from Scandinavians. (Around 50% being pure light, another 30% light mixed, and the remaining minority of dark, and dark mixed.)

Most are very fair-skinned, but the hair is a lot darker than in Scandinavians on average.

[scottch]

Irish rugby team
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English rugby team
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I think Ireland's Rugby players are on the darker side for Ireland, but English are still lighter than Irish, people who disagree just base it on stereotypes.

[scottch]

Heres the German Rugby team for reference

[Tooting Carmen]

Heres the German Rugby team for reference

Leaving aside that it is not a particularly successful team anyway, they're darker than I'd expect (look at the football team by comparison). Are they mainly Bavarians?

[scottch]

Leaving aside that it is not a particularly successful team anyway, they're darker than I'd expect (look at the football team by comparison). Are they mainly Bavarians?

German are just darker than people assume

Heres the German youth team as well

[Tooting Carmen]

German are just darker than people assume

Heres the German youth team as well

I'm still convinced the football team is lighter.


Nevertheless, I do agree that German blondness is often overrated, especially when people claim that they are dramatically lighter than the English. (Germans are blonder than the English, but the point is that the difference is not as enormous as some people think).

[Smeagol]

South Germans are not blonder than the English.

[Tooting Carmen]

South Germans are not blonder than the English.

Probably not, but they are blonder than the Welsh and Irish, even if in skin and eye colour they'd be on par if not a bit darker than those two groups.

[scottch]

I'm still convinced the football team is lighter.
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Germany_national_under-21_football_team.jpg[/IG][IMG]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01535/germany-team-2008-_1535538i.jpg[/IG]

Nevertheless, I do agree that German blondness is often overrated, especially when people claim that they are dramatically lighter than the English. (Germans are blonder than the English, but the point is that the difference is not as enormous as some people think).

English are blonder than Germans, theres only one blonde on the German football team whereas about 1/3 of the English rugby team are, and thats not taking into account the fact that Rugby players are usually on the darker side.

[Smeagol]

Probably not, but they are blonder than the Welsh and Irish, even if in skin and eye colour they'd be on par if not a bit darker than those two groups.

Blonder than Welsh, yes. I'm not sure about the Irish. South Germans and Irish are both mostly medium to dark brown haired.