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    Quote Originally Posted by Roys View Post
    Maybe your Irish friend is simply jealous that they don't have own Queen and etc. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    It's a bit like how the Americans like the Royal Family. People treat them as celebrities.
    I watched news broadcasts during the time Kate and William were getting married, and the news reports were showing people in the US as being more excited about the Royal Wedding than British people who were aware of the costs for the taxpayer for their wedding during times of economic cutbacks.

    I think that people outside of the UK may view monarchies as being glamourous in the way they see them in their media, whereas people who actually live under monarchy systems are more aware of the reality that it isn't glamourous for many people.
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    I simply refer to myself as part Northern Irish not because I hate Ireland, but just because Northern Ireland is where most of my Irish ancestors were located. Of course, when people ask, I usually just say I'm 1/4 Irish. Northern Ireland is where my Irish roots were located, but my blood is simply Irish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catkin View Post
    My friend's Northern Irish but her ancestry's Scottish from the time of the Plantations I think. She reckons she's probably got very little actual Irish blood because the immigrant families in her area tended to marry within each other. She has a Border Reivers surname. I've noticed people at work refer to her as 'Irish' rather than Northern Irish. I'm not sure what she feels about it herself, I'll have to ask.
    Well If I am not wrong many Scottish people could drive their ancestry own ancestry back to Ireland either way from times when Gaelic speakers from Ireland started settling Scotland.

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    How interesting! Part of my ancestry includes people with Scottish names like Baird, Robertson and Lawson coming from Northern Ireland and settling in North Carolina and Virginia before going on to Kentucky and Tennessee. They were fervent Protestants, even as many of us are today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roys View Post
    Well If I am not wrong many Scottish people could drive their ancestry own ancestry back to Ireland either way from times when Gaelic speakers from Ireland started settling Scotland.
    That's certainly true. One of my cousins, a McDonald in the male line, shows descent from Irish Celts who settled in Western Scotland, the area around Glenmoriston. That, I suppose, is a mountain away from the heartland of Glengarry territory and just on Grant land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooding View Post
    How interesting! Part of my ancestry includes people with Scottish names like Baird, Robertson and Lawson coming from Northern Ireland and settling in North Carolina and Virginia before going on to Kentucky and Tennessee. They were fervent Protestants, even as many of us are today.
    The irony of it, is that your Presbyterians were a core part of the American revolution, whereas the Irish protestants of today are the complete opposite..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    The irony of it, is that your Presbyterians were a core part of the American revolution, whereas the Irish protestants of today are the complete opposite..
    Quite right! In fact, I'm pretty sure that our Scots- Irish settlers had anything but pleasant experiences with the British government and were quite eager to take up arms to keep themselves from getting thrown off what they considered their land again. I understand that it was hard to make a living in late 1600s Ulster if you weren't Anglican and that the Presbyterians were hard put to make an honest living. Considering how the Scottish settlers in Ulster did everything they could to stick to their Protestant faith ( the Siege of Derry comes to mind) and support King William, their treatment at the hands of their landlords must have felt like a body- blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Isn't it a bit strange (contradictory) that you want a united Ireland, but an independent Sicily?
    I support a united Cyprus, too.

    TNRC is Turkish imperialism/colonialism. Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are British colonialism/imperialism.

    Sicily is an island with 10,000 years of its own human history. I'm not advocating splitting it into multiple countries, merely gradually making its emergence back to independence, as Italian unification has been a disaster for Sicily.
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    They are Scottish Protestants. Nothing wrong with that. There is a good book on Scots-Irish called "Born Fighting" which essentially says they are not Irish from a cultural standpoint.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Fighting
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