"Northern Irish" isn't a proper nationality

[Grace O'Malley]

I've seen many Orangemen with Gaelic last names....

Yes this is true. An Northern Irish Prime Minister was a Protestant called O'Neill and then Republicans like Gerry Adams and Bobby Sands had Scottish origins. It's just madness to me. I personally don't care if Northern Ireland wants to remain part of the United Kingdom. There is definitely no need for any violence after the Good Friday Agreement. Everyone should abide by democratic opinion. But I'm still happy that Rory McIlroy has decided to play for the Republic in the next Olympic Games. Anyway if the Irish Rugby Team can be all-Ireland and get along why can't the football team be comprised of the Republic and NI?

[Grace O'Malley]

Looking at genetics the Irish are identical to the British. I wonder if they will be able to tease apart dna in the future and separate the populations of the British Isles? Anyway my daughter who has fully Irish ancestry comes out English on dna tests. Luckily she is not interested in dna results as I am because I haven't told her.

[Catkin]

Looking at genetics the Irish are identical to the British. I wonder if they will be able to tease apart dna in the future and separate the populations of the British Isles? Anyway my daughter who has fully Irish ancestry comes out English on dna tests. Luckily she is not interested in dna results as I am because I haven't told her.

And my dad who I thought was fully English comes out as Irish

[Grace O'Malley]

And my dad who I thought was fully English comes out as Irish

It's all very strange Catkin. I've had my mother tested on 23andme and I'm awaiting her ancestry results. I'm trying to find out where that French/German comes from. My dad is no longer here to test but luckily I can get my mum tested. Logically I feel it is from her because my dad was from the west. Not too long to go to find out.

[Catkin]

It's all very strange Catkin. I've had my mother tested on 23andme and I'm awaiting her ancestry results. I'm trying to find out where that French/German comes from. My dad is no longer here to test but luckily I can get my mum tested. Logically I feel it is from her because my dad was from the west. Not too long to go to find out.

That will be interesting . I still need to send off my mum's brother's test. Unfortunately I can't test anyone else on my dad's side as he was an only child and both his parents died many years ago. I'll just have to keep working on tracing his family tree to find out where his more N/W genes came from.

[Grace O'Malley]

That will be interesting . I still need to send off my mum's brother's test. Unfortunately I can't test anyone else on my dad's side as he was an only child and both his parents died many years ago. I'll just have to keep working on tracing his family tree to find out where his more N/W genes came from.

From looking at people's dna the N/W genes appear to be geographic with people from the North West counties of Ireland scoring very high in British/Irish and also North Atlantic. They are more Paleolithic and score higher Baltic in their Gedmatch results. The North West Irish appear to be very close to Western Scots. The border counties in the Republic also appear to have a high similarity to Scots. The more eastern countries of Ireland appear to be closer to English populations.

[Smaug]

My mother's father was born in Southern Ireland....from the mostly 'O'Sullivan area hahah [A very big clan of people], but what is odd is she has some scottish surnames in her tree. Surnames like Wallace and Cunningham, Graham... on my great grandmother's side. I found it odd when I began looking up the surnames. Then I notice my surname Powers....is Anglo-Irish or from the Normans who took over. The people with more norman or anglo surnames were considered the old English people.... they remained catholics but have mostly English roots from the medieval age. I have many of those types of surnames on my father's side. My dad has also some northern Irish roots, and then English from the mayflower...the Puritans/Pilgrims as we call them here.

There is a statute in Salem with my eldest ancestor's name in the America's. Also one at Plymouth rock in Cape Cod [still a very WASP area in Massachusetts].

Aye, same here. Some Anglo-Norman surnames down my Irish side like Burke or FitzAdelm. Old English Catholics.
No worries though, they became more Irish than the Irish themselves.

[LightHouse89]

My great great grandmother was a Powers from Ireland....

Then other surname from Northern Ireland is Pitts.

[LightHouse89]

You're still an American national regardless.

Yes on paper and passport....other than that the word is meaningless. New England is so much cooler. Do you have any Mayflower ancestry?

[LightHouse89]

Looking at genetics the Irish are identical to the British. I wonder if they will be able to tease apart dna in the future and separate the populations of the British Isles? Anyway my daughter who has fully Irish ancestry comes out English on dna tests. Luckily she is not interested in dna results as I am because I haven't told her.

Well The English still have Saxon/Danish or more Germanic roots than other British groups or Irish people but then again by now all of this Germanic backgrounds would have spread throughout the British Islands if you think about it.