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    I just think it's terrible that NI hasn't been given a referendum on independence, yet Scotland gets one.

    Think of those lives which have been lost in NI, all the bombs and bloodshed.... yet they're not allowed a referendum vote for independence. *o*

    If I was a citizen of Northern Ireland and an Irish republican there, I'd be fuming. (Not all people living in NI are Scottish or English immigrants supporting the UK vote - there's Irish Republicans living in NI region too).

    Paul McCartney and other English singers have made songs called "Give Ireland back to the Irish."

    A nationwide survey in Britain found that a majority of people here support a united Eire.

    I read that if Scotland leaves, we'll be called the United Kingdom of England, Wales and NI.... and I don't want this forced UK union of nations on us, (nor the forced EU union), nor do I want bomb attacks happening from angry Irish people who aren't given a referendum vote.

    The government doesn't care about loss of lives though. Why is it the Union Government members lets Scotland have a right to independence but not NI, England or Wales?

    Scottish and English protestants were moved into NI to secure the UK vote there.... look at Rev Ian Paisley... he's a Scottish descent loyalist of the Queen who insists in interviews that he's not Scottish, but Irish, but neither the Irish nor the Scots want him. And a lot of English people don't care to defend NI loyalists in Eire. If people want to be 'British', they should leave NI.

    NI belongs to Ireland. I really hope they get independence next and Wales too, and then England can be independent as well and have our own government and parliament for once.

    It's the political elite in Scotland (the Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Darling and Cameron types), the pro-UK government in NI (like Ian Paisley), and the political elite in Wales and England who support and force this union government... not the ordinary people whose voices are never heard in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LePrieur View Post
    Someday people will realize that political borders and genetics have nothing to do with one another.
    I dont think most old worlders will ever believe that. I would like to but I just do not think they will ever believe it. The truth is I have more in common with a European than any other group/race on this earth.
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    My maternal grandmother was born in Northern Ireland and came from a Protestant family. They all called themselves Irish though not ''Northern Irish''. They identified as Irish Protestants. I do know that at least some of my relatives over there still are Unionists.

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    If an area exists for long enough then it will eventually form an identitiy of its own and I think that is what is beginning to happen with Northern Ireland. I wish it would leave the UK then Great Britain could have a simpler and stronger identitiy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I think all the Irish are descendants of all these men. My mother's family is most likely to be descendants from Brian Boru because they are right in his neck of the woods. O'Brien's definitely are. Brian was known as the Emperor of the Irish and he drove the Norse out of Ireland.
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    I agree. It's none of my business but I think a united Ireland with a new flag and maybe Belfast as a capital is the ideal solution, since Dublin and Cork are too Catholic.

    And before anyone makes a joke about the union jack being their new flag, I meant a united independent Ireland. Use the President's flag with the harp or something.
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    Well I personally would like to see all of Ireland and Britain brought under one flag, which would mean no such thing as Northern Irish, they would be no different to the people in the South of Ireland.

    But I don't even know if there is a term that could be used to cover the people from Britain and Ireland. Northern Irish people are often called British, even though the name of our country clearly says that Britain and Northern Ireland are different. Then again some people have called the Irish "west Britons" in the past and the two different Celtic peoples are similar so maybe they could be brought under the same general term.

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    I thought this was interesting. Two girls from Derry, Northern Ireland change uniforms. One is Catholic and one Protestant. When the girls were having a bit of banter I found it difficult to understand what they were saying but it seems people are leaving some of their sectarian ways behind them.





    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014...n-ireland-film

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    They sound so much like young West Coasters here.

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    Northern Irish are different from Irish. Many Northern Irish would never refer to themselves as Irish, so you got it wrong Fear Fiain.
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