"Northern Irish" isn't a proper nationality

[Loki]

Are people from Northern Ireland the same population which as there was before it being given to United Kingdom?

Yes, but around 400 years ago it was settled by Presbyterians from Scotland and England.

[Loki]

Well I myself have a Great Grandmother with a Scots name and where my father was from there are loads of Scots names like McDonald, Campbell etc so you can see what I mean about people's ancestry. On one side of the border it is used to separate people and on the other side people just look on everyone the same.

The whole British Isles are quite mixed through intermarriage with each other, especially in the cities.

[Grace O'Malley]

I feel sad and embarrassed about the way Irish people were bullied and treated very badly under the British Empire, and my family like the Irish people and culture a lot and I have relatives and cousins there.

But I have a friend from County Kerry in the Republic of Ireland who I met in London. He is a Catholic, but he likes both the Protestant and Catholic churches, and he has all these big flags of the Queen and big Union Jack flags across the walls in his home. Something I would never have in my own home. He thinks the Queen is perfect. He keeps sending me collectors coins and pictures of Kate and William in the post, even though I'm not interested in the monarchy, and he tells me off on the telephone and tells me I should respect the Queen more.

I'm English and I'm not a monarchist and I feel that Ireland should be returned to the Irish and yet my Irish friend from the Republic of Eire thinks the opposite!

It's kind of humorous and funny, but it goes to show that just because a person is born in a certain piece of land, it doesn't necessarily indicate their political views.

I have another Irish friend from Drogheda who lives in London who can't stand the British monarchy or the union, but he loves living in England and he said he likes the ordinary English people.

Lots of Irish people admire the Queen believe it or not. Both my Aunt and mother think she handles herself very well and she respect her as a lady. They aren't monarchists though but just respect how the Queen has handled herself. I think most reasonable people can look at these sorts of things impartially and give credit to where it is due.

[Grace O'Malley]

Are people from Northern Ireland the same population which as there was before it being given to United Kingdom?




Maybe your Irish friend is simply jealous that they don't have own Queen and etc. ?

It's a bit like how the Americans like the Royal Family. People treat them as celebrities.

[Grace O'Malley]

[QUOTE=Roys;3221256]Are people from Northern Ireland the same population which as there was before it being given to United Kingdom?

No they are called Planters. It was a deliberate policy to put in loyal British subjects to subdue what was at the time the most rebellious region of Ireland. The Catholics were pushed off their lands and the land was given to Scots and English.

[Graham]

Yes, but around 400 years ago it was settled by Presbyterians from Scotland and England.

Church of Ireland is mostly the English. Presbyterian is the Scots, like Novella. Many came closer to 300 years during the 'ill years' also along with the older border reivers.

[Loki]

Presbyterian is the Scots, like Novella.

Yes, they even speak the Scots language there:

[Grace O'Malley]

Yes, they even speak the Scots language there:

That even goes into Donegal which is in the Irish Republic.

[Catkin]

My friend's Northern Irish but her ancestry's Scottish from the time of the Plantations I think. She reckons she's probably got very little actual Irish blood because the immigrant families in her area tended to marry within each other. She has a Border Reivers surname. I've noticed people at work refer to her as 'Irish' rather than Northern Irish. I'm not sure what she feels about it herself, I'll have to ask.

[Baldur]

Just how we like it.