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    “Out of Africa” Theory Officially Debunked
    http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=31129

    Re-Examining the "Out of Africa" Theory and the Origin of Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy
    http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperIn...6#.U-XvVBZ97wI

    Scientific Paper
    http://file.scirp.org/Html/19566.html

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    What do other people in scientific community say about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    What do other people in scientific community say about this?
    They dont want to comment on it lol




    for obvious reasons

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    We won't know for years to come because the study needs to be replicated many times by different people and they need to all get the same result. This could take decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    What do other people in scientific community say about this?
    The most widely accepted theory among scientists is that all humans descended from the L3 line which originated in Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    The most widely accepted theory among scientists is that all humans descended from the L3 line which originated in Africa.
    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    The most widely accepted theory among scientists is that all humans descended from the L3 line which originated in Africa.
    Has L3 been replicated many times by different people and they all got the same result?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuropaArise View Post
    Has L3 been replicated many times by different people and they all got the same result?
    I don't know. I'm not that interested in genetics. I just know that the most widely accepted theory is the 'out of Africa' theory. Btw, Scientific Research Publishing is a dubious journal so I wouldn't get my hopes up about this study.

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    Here's my big list of stuff that smashes out of africa. Unfortunately I mislinked some of them to the wrong study, but most go to the correct ones.

    Archaeology says there's continuity in asia and europe for a million years or more.

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...debunked-again


    Evidence that dozens of hominids contributed to human DNA. All african populations show evidence of migration into africa. No population shows evidence of migration out of africa.
    "We detect likely West Eurasian gene flow into the ancestors of Yoruba West Africans within the last ten thousand years, which indirectly contributed a small amount of Neandertal ancestry to Yoruba."

    "These results mean that we have not identified any sub-Saharan African sample that we are confident has no evidence of back-to-Africa migration. Our best candidate at present is the Dinka but it is possible that with a phased genome or large sample sizes we would detect evidence of non-African ancestry in this population as well."

    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12...mountains.html


    Oldest mtdna divide for humans in EUROPE.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12...tdna-from.html


    OoA was supposed to happen 30k-50k years ago but we have genetically sequenced very modern east asians in beijing at 40k years ago.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/01...yuan-cave.html


    Upper Paleolithic fossils go TO african from arabia, not the other way around. The paper's author himself talks in detail about driving around and digging and finding more modern tools towards arabia. That culture probably is influenced/spawned from aurignacian, even further off in europe or iran.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12...lithic-in.html

    In same vein, nubian complex (often pointed to as africa) is obviously exotic to africa.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/07...al-arabia.html

    Here we date someone's remains at 42k+ years. This is related to above item, IE we are seeing intrusion into africa at the same time we are supposed to see big migrations out of africa.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search?...&by-date=false

    Dogs were domesticated in Europe. By the dates given, by neanderthals. Note that only europids really like dogs, too.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/11...ated-dogs.html


    This alone is enough to kill out of africa. Last video shows that pygmies in africa intermixed with an archaic hominid that has no genes outside of africa 100K years ago. This means that rhodiensiensis in south africa is nothing at all to do with human evolution, and it also means that modern humans did not arrive in africa until 100k years ago or so. It also shows that neanderthal are at the root for many cladal gene structures, just not the ones for y-dna and mtdna. This is impossible for any OoA scenario.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/08...gin-of-us.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvoiPUHfOXI


    North Africans...came from Iberia.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/07...maurusian.html
    And some genetic evidence to back it up.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12...h-african.html

    Interestingly, data supports san coming TO africa as easily as FROM africa.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/06...ration-to.html

    And combined with this which shows lots of intermixing with eurasia, it's confirmed they had eurasian admixture before they got to africa (this is from populations with no exposure outside their little tribes until very recently, who remain pure).
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/07...e-san-via.html

    Forested Nkongho-Mbo pygmie region source of y-dna A00, so called oldest human y-dna. Which is also a hotspot for r1b admixture from europe. 9/13 A00 were actually found in france in seeming non-africans, but it's been labeled as african anyhow.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/07...0-project.html

    Modern humans have been in china have been dated to around 100k years ago, making any recent out of africa hypothesis implausible.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/07...rn-humans.html

    Here is typical OoA enthusiast. Accuses someone of racism and falsifying data, and then is caught falsifying data himself. Is not a real scientist at all, just an idiot with a political agenda.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/06...rtongould.html

    As well as having much bigger brains than people today, neanderthals could talk.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12...ould-talk.html

    Here's another one that, all on its own, debunks out of africa. As early as 12k years ago, fossils in sub saharan africa show no signs of modernity, and are much less modern than much older fossils in east africa and outside of africa. The "failed out of africa" skulls from middle east 90k years ago also show striking similarity to upper paleolithic european skulls (and metrically are a hybrid between neanderthal and modern europeans). So the further from africa you get the more like modern humans the skulls look!
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/09...-features.html

    30-40k BC neanderthal-modern hybrid found, genetically sequenced. Since we have actually found one, obviously it happened all the time and wasn't a one time thing. This also happened in italy, destroying the silly theories that it was some one time event in levant during a mythical out of africa mass migration.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/science/first...ug=sciencemain

    the study of modern populations has revealed evidence for both archaic African, and -more recently and surprisingly- even a little archaic Eurasian ancestry in virtually all Sub-Saharan Africans. Populations from one of the presumed cradles of H. sapiens (Eastern Africa) are now conclusively known to be recent mixtures of West Eurasians, and even the Bushmen of southern Africa, the subject of so many TV documentaries as an exemplum of the ur-Humans did not escape this admixture.
    http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2014/01...year-2014.html

    The only ape fossil ever found to have a human finger-to-thumbpad grip is in EUROPE. Feet were also very humanlike. Many supposed upright walkers from africa are very doubtful. Yet we never hear about finds like this in the news.
    http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot...uman-like.html

    Missing link found...in Germany, 50 million years ago.
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ink-found.html




    links to my posts:
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...79#post2160679

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...an-populations

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...nate-in-africa

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...e-most-diverse
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methmatician View Post
    I don't know. I'm not that interested in genetics. I just know that the most widely accepted theory is the 'out of Africa' theory. Btw, Scientific Research Publishing is a dubious journal so I wouldn't get my hopes up about this study.
    Just asking the same questions you are asking, that's all.

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