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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    This info comes from an old website that did not update itself it's called historyofjihad/waronjihad and it has frankly a lot of historical errors. Not only that they also make the mistake calling the Albanians Slavs, and Chechens as Turks. As well other nonsense to.
    can you prove that?

    where do they call Albanians Slavs? and Chechens - Turks?

    post the links to their articles which have such errors in them, for verification.

    Also, just because different articles are included in one website doesn't mean they come from the same source.

    you might also find this helpful (not only you "Al Uzza", also the readers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    Armenian lies has started with falsifying, and it continues



    The history of Armenian photo falsifications start with the publication of the book "Der Völkermord an den Armenien vor Gericht. Der Prozess Talaat Pascha," in 1920 (or 1921) in Berlin. On The cover of the book there is a horrid pyramid of skulls which is accompanied by a picture of Talat Pasha, the Ottoman Minister of the Interior. The book presented the image as a proof of the “Ottoman” barbarity. The “photo” appeared also in 1352 copies of a "well published" book entitled The Massacre of Armenians (Katliami Ermeniyan), by Ismail Ra'in, in 1979 Iran... supported by "some Armenian circles during the Shah's time." The Persian legend under the “photograph” says: Serha-yi eramene-ike katliam shudend der sal 1917 (or "the skulls of Armenians massacred in the year 1917"). But the real great public appearance of this “photo” was in Canada. It was enlarged and shown to the Canadian public in the 1970's, in the Yerevan Pavillion at the annual Metro International Caravan festivities in Toronto, as proof of the Armenian "Genocide." Further, the daily Nova-Svetlina, dated April 23, 1985, of Bulgaria, published an article entitled "Tragic Memories" (Tragichni Spomeni) and signed by an Armenian, M.Sofian. It reproduces the same pictures with the following legend: "The terrifying traces of barbaric massacres of the Armenians in Turkey in the year 1915." Also it was printed on to Postcards by "Committee for Support to Max Hrair Kilnjian" in France.

    But the truth behind this “photo," which “displays the evil nature of the Turks “and their ”organized violence against Armenians”, was a bit different… This “Photo” was not a photo at all but a painting by a Russian artist Vassili Vereshchagin (1842-1904). This Russian painting named "The Apotheosis of War," was created in 1871 and it still hangs in the Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow. Only after Prof. Ataöv exposed the truth about this so called photographic evidence in 1980 it slowly faded away in the depths of the Armenian propaganda.

    It indeed is puzzling to see that this outrageous and careless falsification really made it that far. But thanks to the immense prejudices of the western public and their reluctance to hear what the Turks say, the quick recipe of preparing careless fake and falsified photos still works very well today.
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    Armenians was terrorist, and they are still terrorists
    During 1900-



    "More than 3000 Mountain Jews were killed by Armenians during 1918-1919"

    http://www.today.az/news/politics/25410.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guba_mass_grave
    ...
    during 1970-1980 ASALA terorizm
    TURKISH DIPLOMATS KILLED BY THE ARMENIAN TERRORISTS DURING THEIR DUTY


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orly_Airport_attack
    Orly Airport attack by Armenian terrorists


    Again, where are your sources?

    Why don't you link the sources for all this information? Could there be something you're hiding? Have you noticed, that whenever I post something from a website, I always provide a link and/or cite it, so that people who have questions about the content that I am posting can then verify it...

    truth
    verifiability
    facts
    sources
    trustworthiness
    academic integrity or just integrity per se

    these concepts seem to be foreign to the "gray wolf" propaganda howlers and brainwashed internet serfs.

    How do I know that you didn't manipulate any of the texts that you posted? supposing that the source of the information and the analysis on it is trustworthy.
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    you got all your photos from the bullshit Turkish propaganda site "Tall Armenian Tale" and here is how I know it

    just go editing mode and check out the IMG file

    the very first one reads...

    http://tallarmeniantale.com/pics/hofmannbook.jpg



    Setting this aside, how exactly did you meet your burden of proof with this lengthy (yet ultimately useless) post? can you outline the proof for me in a few sentences of your own?

    Not only are you copying and pasting known propaganda garbage (that everyone, including you, knows it's bullshit), but you also didn't seem to accomplish anything with it...

    What does the (alleged) massacre of the Mountain Jews by Armenians have anything to do with the Armenian Genocide by Turks in Ottoman provinces?

    Suppose, I take all the allegations leveled against the Armenians at face value, what have you accomplished with this? How does any of this diminish or discredit any of facts of the Armenian Genocide?
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    Also, this Azeri website is hardly neutral nor trustworthy. We all would be better off with more impartial sources of information than that.
    http://www.today.az/news/politics/25410.html

    The narration and analysis on the (yet to be proven) allegations are highly suspect, based on the evidence of their behaviour online.

    and this is according to your sources, not even neutral ones!
    http://www.turkishnews.com/en/conten...an-parliament/


    Fiasco for the Azeri propaganda in the EP, European Parliament

    The “commemoration” of the Khojalu events that was for Azerbaijan the pinnacle moment of its ongoing misinformation campaign turned to a fiasco on Tuesday, March 3, 2009, in the European Parliament.

    Alerted by the European Armenian Federation and other voices of European public opinion, the MEP Mrs. Gisela Kallenbach (Greens, Germany) which initially had sponsored the exhibition of the “Aliev Foundation”, became aware that she was the object of the Azeri attempt of manipulation. Consequently, she surprised the participants, primarily the Azeris by declaring that she was there only “because it was too late to cancel the exhibition”.

    In her inaugural speech, Gisela Kallenbach did not hesitate to say that she regretted that the exhibition did not include pictures of the anti-Armenian pogrom that was committed in the Azerbaijani city of Sumgait in 1988, before taking one minute of silence in memory of the victims of all the conflicts of the South Caucasus. She criticised implicitly the Azeri attempt of misinformation and stated that she learnt that this exhibition “could be used in order to destroy the promising and recent process of reconciliation between Armenia and Azerbaijan” and “that was absolutely not” her intention.

    The short speech that Mrs. Kallenbach delivered on this occasion is available here.

    Mrs. Kallenbach quickly put an end to her participation while the ambassador of Azerbaijan was prevented from expressing himself and distributing his false propaganda.

    According to various sources, Mrs. Kallenbach had been deceived by officers of her political group directly financed by the Aliev Foundation.

    “We congratulate Mrs. Kallenbach for her courage and her perspicacity” declared Hilda Tchoboian, the chairperson of the European Armenian Federation; “it is clear that the commemorations of Khojalu organized everywhere in Europe and in the United States form part of the political warmongering of the leaders of Azerbaijan; they aim to prevent the settlement of the conflict by prohibiting any concession to its public opinion, while masking its own crimes” she continued.

    Within the framework of a worldwide campaign of disinformation, the Baku regime intends to make the international institutions acknowledge that the events which would have occurred in Khojalu in 1992 at the time of Artsakh liberation war (formerly Nagorno Karabakh) would have constituted war crimes – even a “genocide”. These events – presented as such using photos taken in Kosovo were never clarified but several sources – in particular Azeri – tend to prove that they would have been caused by the Aliev clan to destabilize the Azeri regime of Mutalibov which was at that time in power.

    The massacres and pogroms of Armenians in Sumgait, Baku and Kirovabad, recalled by Mrs. Kallenbach, are on the other hand, attested as having constituted the response of Azerbaijan to the peaceful process by which the Armenian populations of Karabakh had requested their unification to Armenia, in accordance with the Soviet constitution which was into force at that time. These pogroms caused the Artsakh liberation war to begin.

    At that time, the European Parliament strongly criticised the actions of Azerbaijan towards its Armenian population, pointing out “the blockade and the aggression of Azerbaijan”, “the 300,000 Armenian refugees who fled the pogroms”, the murders of Armenians perpetrated “in horrific circumstances”, “the economic blockade of Armenia”, “the unprecedented attack against the Armenians of Karabakh” and their “right to self-determination”.
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    basically all you've done with that lengthy pointless post was regurgitate the well known forgeries and lies from a ridiculously obvious pro-Turkish propaganda website. and yet you expect people to take you seriously? who are you fooling here exactly? keep insulting the intelligence of the readers on this forum.

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    Here is some food for thought: These are the numbers of people, mainly Turks and Kurds, murdered by the Armenians in the Caucasus and Anatolia during 1906-1922.

    (in German)
    1st row: volume & document numbers
    2nd row: date
    3rd row: place
    4th row: detailed information
    5th row: dead person

    Sources are given in the last shortcut. I have counted 503.543 dead person in total. Maybe this explains why Turks and Kurds got angry toward Armenians.















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