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    Quote Originally Posted by Ars Moriendi View Post
    The State need not be concerned with such menial matters, other than procuring healthy food instead of greasy junk, and educating active physical education and proper habits socially.

    If there are indeed unfit people, they will progressively dissapear on their own provided the State doesn't promote disgenesic measures: Forced fertility for sick people, impotence medicines, articial conception.

    Humans are too mediocre to decide what's best for them, so the only wise thing to do is to promote natural health, and let nature do its part.


    Eugenic human programs are bound to fail by their own weight, and can only happen within an apparatus that is deeply corroded by dementia.Typical example of ivory towers with clay foundations.
    If people were so weak that they could only exist in such a nanny state, then they probably shouldn't exist in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LePrieur View Post
    If people were so weak that they could only exist in such a nanny state, then they probably shouldn't exist in the first place.
    So what is it?
    Less intrusion fom the State so that nature can do its selection freely without artifical sustenance for negative features, or more intervention from State so that humans can forcefully alter their own biological development using only human points of view and human objectives as a standard?

    I already stated the natural path: Promote good habits, and do not fund disgenesic measures so that individuals harm the collective for selfish reasons. Simple.

    Self-righteous vainglory will always fall due to its own weight. It is inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ars Moriendi View Post
    The State need not be concerned with such menial matters, other than procuring healthy food instead of greasy junk, and educating active physical education and proper habits socially.

    If there are indeed unfit people, they will progressively dissapear on their own provided the State doesn't promote disgenesic measures: Forced fertility for sick people, impotence medicines, articial conception.

    Humans are too mediocre to decide what's best for them, so the only wise thing to do is to promote natural health, and let nature do its part.


    Eugenic human programs are bound to fail by their own weight, and can only happen within an apparatus that is deeply corroded by dementia.Typical example of ivory towers with clay foundations.
    I disagree. SOME humans are too mediocre to know what is best for them. There are others who are fit to decide the fate of those below them. And why do you say eugenics programs fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeinMitleid View Post
    I disagree. SOME humans are too mediocre to know what is best for them. There are others who are fit to decide the fate of those below them. And why do you say eugenics programs fail?
    No, it's not some. The human species is not competent enough to understand the nature of the cosmos, the way time will change everything that exists, or even the reason behind plenty of events (not even dark matter is understood).

    You are not superior to other humans, just like anyone else is not superior enough to pretend otherwise.

    Petty self-grandiose behaviour irreparably ends in calamity, for a simple reason that has always been true since days immemorial: Arrogance always ends in misery and disgrace.

    Human eugenic programs have never lasted for a reason, and that is the inherent failure they carry with them.

    Even the Spartan method, the toughest and most vertical of all systems eventually ended up being unable to pass the test of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ars Moriendi View Post
    So what is it?
    Less intrusion fom the State so that nature can do its selection freely without artifical sustenance for negative features, or more intervention from State so that humans can forcefully alter their own biological development using only human points of view and human objectives as a standard?

    I already stated the natural path: Promote good habits, and do not fund disgenesic measures so that individuals harm the collective for selfish reasons. Simple.

    Self-righteous vainglory will always fall due to its own weight. It is inevitable.
    Which do you think would be seen as less immoral. Deciding who gets to pass on their genes, or letting people decide by taking the warning labels off everything; letting natural selection run it's course.

    It's a pretty clear hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ars Moriendi View Post
    So what is it?
    Less intrusion fom the State so that nature can do its selection freely without artifical sustenance for negative features, or more intervention from State so that humans can forcefully alter their own biological development using only human points of view and human objectives as a standard?

    I already stated the natural path: Promote good habits, and do not fund disgenesic measures so that individuals harm the collective for selfish reasons. Simple.

    Self-righteous vainglory will always fall due to its own weight. It is inevitable.
    If anything actual enforced eugenics imply a very serious attempt at central planning by the state and we all know how well that went everytime. God knows, I'm no libertarian, but going at it indirectly rather than directly would solve the issue faster and with considerably less butthurt from those about to be purged genetically.

    Don't forget that actual recreation is more than simply muh-diking (unless you are black I guess) your way through the 'ho population. Your children are the most telling mark you have left upon the world and also a form of your continuation after your death. (which is why race mixing has a wrong feeling to it even to the average non apricity resident Melonhead: children are supposed to look like those who came before them)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ars Moriendi View Post
    Even the Spartan method, the toughest and most vertical of all systems eventually ended up being unable to pass the test of history.
    Which is the most telling. After Sparta (and the whole of greece for that matter, even today) acquired actual money, they crashed so hard into the decline that the only thing resembling sparta afterwards was it's name. And as for the few kings that tried to reverse the trend with direct methods, all they managed to do was accelerate it.

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    Guy of your avatar could participate in this thead for sure.

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