The Condorcet Paradox and Arrow's Impossibility Theorem

[Anglojew]

[Aviator]

If democracy is so bad why does it work so well in Switzerland?
Democracy is not a problem, is the quality of the population of a given country that is.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Any form of tyranny is trash. Maintain intelligent, self motivated, ethically healthy society, and there is nothing better than democracy.

Democracy fails, when society is demoralized and corrupted.

I won't argue with you there. Nonetheless, these are fundamental and completely factual issues with democracy.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Also a lot of things can't be left up to the whim of the day, like immigration and going to war. It needs to be set in the constitution that there are large limits on war or any kind of use of force. That has been abrograted in the US constitution, but a new constitution could help with these issues.

[Aviator]

Bump in hopes of sparking up more intellectual discussion in light of the constant trolling going on right now.

[LightHouse89]

I just view it as an irrational belief system, a complete fallacy. I mean in smaller scale societies it works but not for world powers....it only serves corporations and banking systems.....I mean just look at the influence lobbies have in Washington....how can you tell me democracy is even real anymore. I prefer Fascism. I am not trolling. For a time I believed in democracy until recent years I have become convinced it is the worst leadership for mankind.

[LightHouse89]

But they were not tried.....just beaten into submission by democracy. I really believe democracy just by judging america is a total fallacy.

[Apis]

Democracy is inherently flawed; voting trends towards a two-party system, and the prospect of election is directly related to campaign funding. The latter leads to bias towards benefactors, who more often than not are in the form of corporate lobbyists. As mentioned by OP, elected leaders also tend to be more focused on actions that promote re-election, rather than benefit society. The only major advantage is that tyranny is non-existent. The primary issue, however, is finding a viable alternative.

[Anglojew]

But they were not tried.....just beaten into submission by democracy. I really believe democracy just by judging america is a total fallacy.

Which system do you prefer?

[Kale]

Yeah, democracy and capitalism are incompatible.

[LightHouse89]

I won't argue with you there. Nonetheless, these are fundamental and completely factual issues with democracy.

However the population is indoctrinated to be as stupid as they are today. There is nothing revolutionary about democracy anymore. Democracy has failed its intended purpose.