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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemma View Post
    But Pale Fire, not everybody thinks that abstinence is an appropriate form of "protection". As a matter of fact, "abstinence" is not any type of protection at all!

    Yup you can call me one of those Liberals perhaps but honestly, I'd rather my 12 year old, if he were sexually active, to be protecting his health than not!
    I know, but I just find it disturbing that boys that age are having sex at all. I never said that abstinence was a form of protection, its just a value that a lot of people don't care about anymore. I think that sex is a very special thing and shouldn't be wasted when you are 12. There's something really wonderful about a couple who abstains from sex until after they are married, its so much more meaningful that way. If someone can abstain from sex, it is much safer than using a condom regardless of whether its protection or not.

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    Areas that rely on teaching abstinence tend to have much higher rates of teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases than those where contraception is freely available along with the knowledge for how to use it. I would not be surprised if the divorce rates are lower and families more stable where politicians don't try to impose "family values".

    You can dismiss common sense as "liberal" but it is still common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    Areas that rely on teaching abstinence tend to have much higher rates of teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases than those where contraception is freely available along with the knowledge for how to use it. I would not be surprised if the divorce rates are lower and families more stable where politicians don't try to impose "family values".

    You can dismiss common sense as "liberal" but it is still common sense.
    Shhh... don't say that too loud, the crazies might hear you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    Areas that rely on teaching abstinence tend to have much higher rates of teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases than those where contraception is freely available along with the knowledge for how to use it. I would not be surprised if the divorce rates are lower and families more stable where politicians don't try to impose "family values".

    You can dismiss common sense as "liberal" but it is still common sense.
    I'm sorry, but what you are saying is not common sense. Giving a 12 year old a condom is just encouraging them to have sex more. If we didn't have all of these loose values in our media we wouldn't have a problem teaching abstinence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Fire View Post
    Giving a 12 year old a condom is just encouraging them to have sex more.
    Have you any proof?

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    At the age of 12 I was not even close to have sex, nor I cared about it, some do I guess, like gypsies here, they have children at 12, not that they use condoms or anything. I don't really see this as a big of a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jägerzen View Post
    Have you any proof?
    Who needs proof? Just think about it. Ooh I've got a condom now, if I go out and have sex I'll really be a man. 12 year olds are not old enough to even understand what they're actually doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Fire View Post
    I'm sorry, but what you are saying is not common sense. Giving a 12 year old a condom is just encouraging them to have sex more. If we didn't have all of these loose values in our media we wouldn't have a problem teaching abstinence.
    Teaching abstinence? But Pale Fire, the problem is that teaching abstinence goes against that which is a natural and healthy human activity. I'm not saying that all 12 year olds should be having a roll in the hay BUT some are ready at that age and well, so be it! It's a natural bodily function, as natural as having to breathe, eat, sleep and eliminate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Fire View Post
    Who needs proof?
    I do.

    You are the one making the assertion so therefore the burden of proof lies on you. I am asking you to provide some evidence to support your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Fire View Post
    I'm sorry, but what you are saying is not common sense. Giving a 12 year old a condom is just encouraging them to have sex more. If we didn't have all of these loose values in our media we wouldn't have a problem teaching abstinence.
    Can you crawl back into the Baptist Church you came out of?

    Logical fallacy, just because it CAN happen, doesn't it mean it WILL happen, or that that assumption represents a fair amount of cases.

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