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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    It isn't, because neolithics don't score any on gedmatch, but they score East Med. It is just a fact MENAs are CHG mixed and received migration waves from Caucasus, togheder with J and G haplogroups.
    Arabs for example are basically Natufian (E1b) + CHG (J1/J2) with some African or European, depending on the region.

    I score high CHG/Kavkaz everywhere, and low East Med, just like on gedmatch. Btw, non Slavs in Volga-Ural region of Russia score suprisingly high West Asian. They are genetically super northern.
    That's pretty much what I'm saying, MENAs carried these components to Greece, Balkans and South Italy. While SW Europe has little from it because it has less post-BA Anatolian. Iberia, for example, has the lowest Caucasus admixture in all of Southern Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    That's pretty much what I'm saying, MENAs carried these components to Greece, Balkans and South Italy. While SW Europe has little from it because it has less post-BA Anatolian. Iberia, for example, has the lowest Caucasus admixture in all of Southern Europe.
    I score 0% Red Sea, no African at all and low East Med. This component peaks in Georgia and North Caucasus, not Syria.
    If MENAs bought it here, we would score their main brown components in large quantities, but we don't.

    My west Asian itself is higher than East Med, and other Croats have it similar just like my Hungarian husband.
    User Hrvoje who is mix of Slovenian, Croat and Czech also scores high West Asian and low East Med.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    To be honest, I don't think West Asian component in Croats come from Indo-Europeans. If you look at Scandinavians and Balts they score very little of it, while Sicilians and Greek Islanders score a lot. The latter are among the least steppe admixed Europeans, the former are the ones with more Steppe.

    Even Kurds, Armenians, Syrians and Iranians score high West Asian, I doubt this is a steppe component.
    The West Asian component isn't at all Steppe. It's direct CHG related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    Arabs aren’t Natufian at all. Natufian scores 1/3 if not more sub Saharan African like.
    They don't score any SSA, troll. Natufian is just proto Afro-Asiatic.
    Natufian sample on gedmatch

    1 Red_Sea 38.34
    2 East_Med 36.39
    3 West_Med 19.79
    4 Northeast_African 5.49

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Saudi 16.78
    2 Yemenite_Jewish 21.62
    3 Bedouin 22.12
    4 Egyptian 23.37
    5 Moroccan 26.55
    6 Tunisian 27.4
    7 Palestinian 27.58
    8 Algerian 27.64
    9 Jordanian 28.87
    10 Mozabite_Berber 29.04
    11 Samaritan 29.41
    12 Libyan_Jewish 29.46
    13 Tunisian_Jewish 30.33
    14 Syrian 30.75
    15 Lebanese_Christian 32.28
    16 Algerian_Jewish 32.65
    17 Sephardic_Jewish 33.18
    18 Lebanese_Muslim 33.72
    19 Italian_Jewish 34.08
    20 Cyprian 34.5

    1 69.6% Saudi + 30.4% Moroccan @ 13.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    The West Asian component isn't at all Steppe. It's direct CHG related.
    And ''steppe'' is just a mix of EHG and CHG. Yamnaya gedmatch

    1 Baltic 41.42
    2 West_Asian 31.04

    3 North_Atlantic 20.51
    4 South_Asian 4.19
    5 Amerindian 2.84

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 22.45
    2 Erzya 23.9
    3 Southwest_Russian 24.22
    4 Ukrainian_Lviv 24.81
    5 Tatar 24.99
    6 Kargopol_Russian 25.17
    7 Russian_Smolensk 25.39
    8 Ukrainian 25.72
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    10 Moldavian 25.98
    11 Polish 26.21
    12 Croatian 26.55
    13 Estonian_Polish 26.96
    14 Belorussian 27.25
    15 Lithuanian 27.88
    16 Hungarian 28.63
    17 Chuvash 28.9
    18 Tabassaran 29
    19 Estonian 29.15
    20 Finnish 29.42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    hey don't score any SSA, troll. Natufian is just proto Afro-Asiatic.
    Natufian sample on gedmatch

    1 Red_Sea 38.34
    2 East_Med 36.39
    3 West_Med 19.79
    4 Northeast_African 5.49

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Saudi 16.78
    2 Yemenite_Jewish 21.62
    3 Bedouin 22.12
    4 Egyptian 23.37
    5 Moroccan 26.55
    6 Tunisian 27.4
    7 Palestinian 27.58
    8 Algerian 27.64
    9 Jordanian 28.87
    10 Mozabite_Berber 29.04
    11 Samaritan 29.41
    12 Libyan_Jewish 29.46
    13 Tunisian_Jewish 30.33
    14 Syrian 30.75
    15 Lebanese_Christian 32.28
    16 Algerian_Jewish 32.65
    17 Sephardic_Jewish 33.18
    18 Lebanese_Muslim 33.72
    19 Italian_Jewish 34.08
    20 Cyprian 34.5
    I retracted the statement lol.

    It’s interesting that it seems natufians had more of a genetic impact on Arabs than levantines. This is probably because it’s not direct Natufian ancestry but from a similar hunter gathering people who lived in Arabian peninsula as well as in the Levant at the time E1b migrated from North Africa and assimilated them making “Natufian”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    I retracted the statement lol.

    It’s interesting that it seems natufians had more of a genetic impact on Arabs than levantines.
    Levantines are more Caucasus mixed. As you can see Natufians scored 0% West Asian.

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