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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    For the language part, you actually can survive more than well enough in Hong Kong if you speak just English. Most people there can speak it fluently (because it was a British colony, duh)
    I've been told it is less widespread than might be expected. Besides, the native language is Cantonese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Here is one of my own: immigrants who want to end all or most immigration in their host country are usually hypocrites and/or self-haters. (No, I don't believe in open borders. But nor do I think we should go into hysterics when even one Pakistani or Ghanaian comes along). What's more, the direction of traffic between the West and the Global South is not as one way as many think: certainly, there are many Brits in the Arabian Peninsula and SE Asia in particular.

    Another form of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance in this debate is when native English-speakers complain about the limited or non-existent English of many immigrants. Fair enough, but do you promise to learn Spanish when moving to Mexico, Arabic when moving to UAE or Cantonese when moving to Hong Kong?
    Sabes que hay muchos gringos quines hablan en otras idiomas tambien, ¿no? (Como yo, por ejemplo). Aprendi Español para viajar el mundo, no para acomodar a migrantes analfabetos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Re the above: as an example, I personally oppose the death penalty, because I think it is a very dangerous power for the State to have, and what happens if it is subsequently revealed that the executed person was actually innocent? Nevertheless, I also respect the right of sovereign democracies like the US, Japan and India to maintain it, if they so wish.
    Insurgency and mass murder warrant it, though, IMHO.

    Forgot to add, acts of terrorism too.
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    Another unpopular opinion, whether on the Left or the Right (for different but not entirely unrelated reasons): non-whites dislike Whites at least as much as the other way round. And no, it is not (entirely) a reaction to colonialism either: the Boxer Rebellion in China was driven in part by anger at Western men picking up Chinese women, and in pre-colonial Africa European visitors were often pitied and even sometimes ridiculed for looking so sickly and pale. What is more, surveys in recent years show that, in the US, Aframs - more specifically, Afram women - tend to be the most vigorously opposed to mixed marriages.

    Nonetheless, it is true that, among races and nations that are neither White nor Black - Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Saudis, Iraqis, Mexicans etc - Blacks are usually disliked even more than Whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italicus View Post
    Sabes que hay muchos gringos quines hablan en otras idiomas tambien
    Es una minoria pequena en la gran esquema de cosas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    Insurgency and mass murder warrant it, though, IMHO.

    Forgot to add, acts of terrorism too.
    I still believe that life imprisonment in maximum security should suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I still believe that life imprisonment in maximum security should suffice.
    Hmmm, I'd only consider that enough if forced labor is added to the sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Moreover there were people who where executed in the U.S despite being duped into committing a murder and having a moderate intellectual disability.
    They would get life sentence elsewhere, which is not much better in my opinion so i don't think it's a great argument against death penalty.

    With the advent of genetics and advanced forensics, the sentences have never been objectively supported by more undeniable evidences as they are today, as much as it can possibly get. People just have to admit it's only a moral issue on their end and not hiding behind some rare cases of dysfunctionnal trials in the past. The opinion has shifted completely in few decades on the subject, so the question is why and how. People are not smarter today than they were in the 20th century, they didn't reach that conclusion alone. I believe it's more the idea against it that was infused in the pop culture, especially in movies with hundreds of them treating the subject.

    It can also work both ways, exploiting holes in the laws for dubious acquittals, since reasonable doubt is in favor of the accused. When they don't try to pass as having a mental disability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    Hmmm, I'd only consider that enough if forced labor is added to the sentence.
    Yeah, there has to be something to offset the costs. It's ridiculous for taxpayers to support what could be considered a life of ease in some respects.

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    I am objectively for the death penalty. However, there are too many cases where people are found to be innocent only after they are executed. There has to be a higher standard than "reasonable doubt" if the sentence is death.


    I know, innocent people don't get executed that often, and the ones who are usually, black, brown, or poor. There are lots of injustices in this world, but being put to death for a crime a person didn't commit is one of the worst and most avoidable.

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