View Poll Results: Is Romania Eastern,Central or Southern/Southeastern(Balkan)

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    58 58.59%
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    30 30.30%
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    11 11.11%
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Thread: Romania is a Central European or a Balkan country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    http://www.ce-review.org/99/23/cvijetic23.html
    Indeed, there has hardly been a notion this century as burdened by negative connotation as "the Balkans" or "Balkanisation." What used to be a geographic toponym ("Balkan" comes from the Turkish word simply meaning "mountain" and is used to describe the Stara Planina mountain in Bulgaria), has become a means of defamation and a synonym for partition, tribal conflict and retrograde political agendas - that is, an incarnation of everything that is negative or backward.

    The term is used, of course, in a very reductionist way and is a convenient tool for differentiating between "us" and "them," between the "civilised world" and "those down there." Even such horrifying, deeply uncivilised and inhuman political programmes as Nazism and Fascism have not completely lost their appeal in the eyes of some (hopefully irrelevant) political forces in modern Europe. The Balkans (and the type of politics it represents), however, remains an unwanted child, whom absolutely no one wants to accept as his own, left in front of the door of the wealthy nations, who are unwillingly forced to take care of it.

    Not surprisingly, the nations unfortunate enough to be located in the Balkans have accepted this reductionist approach. Not to be a part of the Balkans has become a matter of self-esteem and national identification. Virtually every nation that geographically belongs to the Balkan peninsula (Turkey, Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia and Montenegro, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia) claims that it by no means belongs to the Balkans and attempts to impose geo-political re-definitions that would, once and for all, remove it from the infamous list.
    Balkan immigrants in Turkey are quite proud of their heritage and identify as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    What's culturally balkan?
    What common culture does Serbia, Albania and Romania share?
    Everything. Religion, political culture, social structure, etc. Romania is part of the Oriental cultural sphere from Iran to Bosnia, from Romania to Arabia. Except Western-Moldova, because the once strong Eastern European cultural contacts, but Western-Moldova is wallachized (orientalized) in the last 150 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    What's culturally balkan?
    What common culture does Serbia, Albania and Romania share?
    Trust me we are culturally similar maybe not in religion but we are similar in other things, I have two close Romanian friends and I have learnt that they share many cultural things with us
    23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results

    MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Everything. Religion, political culture, social structure, etc. Romania is part of the Oriental cultural sphere from Iran to Bosnia, from Romania to Arabia. Except Western-Moldova, because the once strong Eastern European cultural contacts, but Western-Moldova is wallachized (orientalized) in the last 150 years.
    Arabia is really irrelevant in this case.

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    Croatia is more Western because they are Catholic. Most of Balkans is Orthodox and their mindset is very similar to that of conservative Muslims in their approach towards women. Balkan immigrants here though are much more secular. But overall Balkan is not a negative concept for me as long as secularism is maintained regardless of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimage View Post
    "balkan music" for example. I heard romanian serbian albanian pop music and I heard similarities, if you request I will try to find examples to demonstrate this. I also think albania and serbia shares some food, not sure about romania
    That's modern bro, not relevant at all. If black metal is popular in Norway as well as Portugal it doesn't make Norway southern European....
    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    You quoted my three years old comment. I changed my opinion as you can see in post above.

    Romania is similar to orthodox Slavic countries.
    Regarding Balkan it means Byzantine-Ototman influnces. But I already said it should be tossed out of dictionary because of it's derogatory meaning.
    I didn't see that, but if you think Greek influence is Balkan then I agree. IMO Romania culturally is probably a lot more similar to Greece than many Balkan countries such as Albania, Montenegro and Bosnia.
    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Everything. Religion, political culture, social structure, etc. Romania is part of the Oriental cultural sphere from Iran to Bosnia, from Romania to Arabia. Except Western-Moldova, because the once strong Eastern European cultural contacts, but Western-Moldova is wallachized (orientalized) in the last 150 years.
    What a load of horseshit, but wouldn't expect less from someone essentially claiming Hungary is central Asian. Religion is also shared with Russia and Greece, neither considered "balkan". As for the political and social structure.... You have no idea what the heck you're talking about, just throw them words out there see if they land.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Trust me we are culturally similar maybe not in religion but we are similar in other things, I have two close Romanian friends and I have learnt that they share many cultural things with us
    In the UK, I'm sure you'd say the same about Slovenians or Croats for example.


    Summarized, my point is that I can agree that Romania is in the Balkans, but the Balkans are a geographic entity, not a cultural or continental one. You go across the Balkans and you won't find one single strong defining character. Just as you won't find it in western Europe, northern Europe or southern Europe. It's just geographical, the closer you are to a country the more you're likely to share with it. No matter what the Hungarians claim for example, you'd be very Agenda driven to claim something like northwestern Romanians share more with Albanians than with southeastern Hungarians.

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    Southeast European, Turkey is literally ~200km away from Southern Romania.

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    Is not a balkan country.

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    How many Romanians have Balkan identity ? I would like Romanian members to answer this.

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    I voted for Eastern European.

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