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    Quote Originally Posted by templumForasticus View Post
    Mongolia is divided in two parts. Northern part is a sovereign country.
    Actually you can also say into three parts: Inner Mongolia (Southern), Mongolia (Central) and Buryatia (Northern).

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    Another picture of mongolic speaking people (better one):


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    Mongols probably delayed the advancements of this world by a few decades because of the total destruction of mighty classic civilizations like China, Middle East.
    They helped in containing Chinese overpopulation problem to some extent.
    I wish they did the same favor to India

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post


    This map shows the boundary of 13th century Mongol Empire compared to today's Mongols. The red area shows where the majority of Mongolian speakers reside today.


    Interesting, I didn't know about that spot in southern Russia where Mongols live.
    The Mongol descended Kalmyks in Europe are also Buddhists. Not many people realise there's a Buddhist state in Europe:

    Spoiler!

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    Is Mongolic a better word when it comes to the different tribes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dombra View Post
    Is Mongolic a better word when it comes to the different tribes?
    I think yes. They all consider themselves as "Mongols".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    Another picture of mongolic speaking people (better one):

    What is this "Moghol" tribe? Hazaras would've counted but, they now speak a Persian dialect of their own, Hazaragi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah-Jehan View Post
    What is this "Moghol" tribe? Hazaras would've counted but, they now speak a Persian dialect of their own, Hazaragi

    They used to speak moghol language according to german scholar:



    Moghol (or Mogholi) is a Mongolic language spoken in the region of Herat, Afghanistan, by a few members of the Hazara community.
    In the 1970s, when the German scholar Michael Weiers did fieldwork on the language, few people spoke the language, most knew it passively and most were older than 40 years.

    Weiers noted down the following poem by the Moghol poet Abd Al-Qadir.

    Weiers' Moghol text:
    Dotanamni dog baina
    Hawoi ukini aimag baina
    Nesoni ugunambi agar toni baiji
    Mota giri qara qurgani baina.
    Ekimni dard kina halmini geibe
    Bemoor boljambi kam khormini geibe
    Bemoor boljambi kam khormini khodai jaan
    Ena bemoreztu parwoimini geibe.

    Another Moghol poem or song of Abd Al-Qadir written in Arabic alphabet (from Weiers):

    Weiers' Moghol text:
    Argun-i kulkah utalat Cingiz kulkah ulu’at
    Nirah-ci-du kulkah gahat ya gaut al-a’zam gar bari
    Karyas-du-ci kibah nudun lar-i dazam iz abatun
    Mun abd qadir gai urun ya gaut al-a’zam gar bari

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moghol_language

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    They forgot the Hazaras in Afghanistan who are also Mongols, though they have Iranic ancestry also, but most claim Mongol descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    They forgot the Hazaras in Afghanistan who are also Mongols, though they have Iranic ancestry also, but most claim Mongol descent.
    I think many of them are Eurasian (caucasoid-admixed) and cannot pass in Mongolia.

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