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    Default DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE WESTERN AND ORTHODOX EASTERN CIVILIZATIONS (UPDATED!)

    It is well-known that Western and Central Europe, ( the so-called Western civilization) was always more developed than Orthodox Slavic or Eastern European civilization.
    The cultural the societal-system and the economical civilizational (and technological) differences between Orthodox countries and Western Christian (Catholic-Protestant) countries were similar great, as the differences between Northern America (USA Canada) and Southern- (Latino) America.





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    Western things which were not existed in orthodox world:



    1. POLITICAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL development: Medieval appearance of parliaments (a legislative body(!), DO NOT CONFUSE with the “councils of monarchs” which existed since the beginning of human history), the estates of the realm, the clergy, the nobility, and the commoners,




    2. SELF GOVERNMENT status of big royal/imperial cities, (local government systems of cities), which are the direct ancestors of modern self/local governmental systems.




    3. ECONOMY: The medieval appearance of banking systems and social effects and status of urban bourgeoisie, the absolute dominance of money-economy (when the vast majority of trade based on money and the taxes customs duties were collected in money) from the 12th -13th century, instead of the former primitive bartel-based commerce (barter dominated the economies orthodox world until the 17-18th centuries.)
    4. HIGHER EDUCATION: The medieval appearance of universities and the medieval appearance of secular intellectuals,






    CULTURE: Knights, the knight-culture, chivalric code, (and the technological effects of crusades from the Holy Land,)
    Music and literature: courtly love, troubadours, Gregorian chant, Ars nova, Organum, Motet, Madrigal, Canon and Ballata, Liturgical drama, Novellas,
    medieval western THEATER: Mystery or cycle plays, morality and passion plays, which developed into the renaissance theater, the direct ancestor of modern theaters.
    Philosophy: Scholasticism and humanist philosophy,



    6. The medieval usage of Latin alphabet and medieval spread of movable type printing,



    7. TECHNOLOGY: The guild system is an association of artisans or merchants, which organized the training education, and directed master's exam system for artisians. Due to the compulsory foreign studies of the artisian master's candidates, the guilds played key role in the fast spread of technologies and industrial knowledge in the medieval Western World.



    8. The defence systems & fortifications: The spread of stone/brick castle defense -systems, the town-walls of western cities from the 11th century. (In the orthodox world, only the capital cities had such a walls . The countries of the Balkan region and the territory of Russian states fell under Ottoman/Mongolian rule very rapidly - with a single decesive open-field battle - due to the lack of the networks of stone/brick castles and fortresses in these countries. The only exception was the greek inhabited Byzantine territories which were well fortified.)



    9. FINEARTS and ARCHITECTURE: western architecture, sculpture paintings and fine-arts: the Romanesque style, the Gothic style and the Renaissance style.
    The orthodox church buildings and „palaces(?)” were very little, they had primitive structure and poor decorations, their style were influenced by non-European arabic and persian influenced Byzantine ornamentics.







    The renaissance & humanism , the reformation and the enlightenment did not influenced/affected the Orthodox (Eastern European) countries.
    Before 1870, the industrialization that had developed in Western and Central Europe and the United States did not extend in any significant way to the rest of the world. In Eastern Europe, industrialization lagged far behind, and started only in the 20th century.
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    yay, one of the greatest Stears quotes again I also almost memorized it
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    Why was this necessary,I wonder? What are the chances stears in not a mental pacient in a special clinic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easterner View Post
    Why was this necessary,I wonder? What are the chances stears in not a mental pacient in a special clinic?
    Topics about the late nomadism of romanians would be better? Or topics about your economic societal infrastructural or scientific "development" ? ))))))

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    Catholics > East Orthodox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peikko View Post
    Catholics > East Orthodox
    Atheism > All religions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peikko View Post
    Catholics > East Orthodox
    WTF? We are in 21 century...

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    Catholics> Russia, that's why Russia fucked Western Europe always. Nowadays the same situations, look at Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    Catholics> Russia, that's why Russia fucked Western Europe always. Nowadays the same situations, look at Ukraine.
    They fucked romanians and moldovans worst, as always. Before 1949, the US could have made ashes of much of Russia by using their nuclear weapons and without anglo-american help, Hitler's Germany would have wiped the floor with the inept soviet armies. To be sure, nazis and anglo-protestants were not catholics.

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