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    Default Which city is worse? Skopje or Sarajevo?

    Both cities are muslim-infested, except Skopje's Muslims are a bit less radical but it has its share of Turks which increase the level of radicalism of Islam in Skopje. I've been to Sarajevo and I can't say I was too impressed... The city was largely damaged during the civil war so they have a good excuse. But Skopje today is getting more and more ridiculous with it building all things related to ancient Macedonians and foregoing their Slavic heritage completely. So, Skopje loses a point from me for that. Personally, both cities are not too great but I'd think Sarajevo to be better than Skopje because it still retain some pretty architecture and people in general is really friendly there. Not the same can be said of Skopje where it's overflowing with gypsies, Macedonian fascists and their general hatred of anything non-Macedonian.



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    In Sarajevo they probably would not call me "Tatar"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabiti View Post
    In Sarajevo they probably would not call me "Tatar"
    That's true, I forgot to add that point. FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    That's true, I forgot to add that point. FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.
    Not despite, but because, I'd imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riippumaton View Post
    Not despite, but because, I'd imagine.
    Are you suggesting that it's horrible to be recognized as a Bulgarian?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    Are you suggesting that it's horrible to be recognized as a Bulgarian?
    If you don't want to be Bulgarian, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riippumaton View Post
    If you don't want to be Bulgarian, yes.
    The case of FYROM isn't very complex to the experienced eye but to the novices it can be. FYROM's location today is where the Turkish vilayet (province) of Macedonia used to be. And a lot of Bulgarians lived in that vilayet with Greeks crowding the coastal towns. And those Bulgarians called themselves Macedonian because they lived in the vilayet named Macedonia not because they viewed themselves as descendants of Megas Alexandros. The claiming lineage to Megas Alexandros is a recent thing initially started by Stalin who wanted to incorporate the Greek province of Macedonia. He had the Bulgarians in the province of Blagoevgrad forcibly re-identify themselves as Macedonian not Bulgarian and this was carried out by Georgi Dimitrov (a famous Bulgarian communist in league with Stalin and partially with Tito who planned the incorporation of Bulgaria and Macedonia as whole before the Tito-Stalin split). Obviously when the communists lost the civil war in Greece and the idea was thrown out but the people there just kept using the name Macedonia and Macedonians as their ancestors had and now with the age of information here -- they were able to put 1 and 1 together that the name is related to the ancient people of Macedonia who conquered more than half of the known world at the time.

    The vilifying of Bulgarians in FYROM is also a recent thing started by radical nationalists in FYROM because they want to claim the history of IMRO as their own, not Bulgaria's. And a lot of their national heroes are Bulgarians but they continue to deny that they are Bulgarians but Macedonians. Just fucking ridiculous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    The case of FYROM isn't very complex to the experienced eye but to the novices it can be. FYROM's location today is where the Turkish vilayet (province) of Macedonia used to be. And a lot of Bulgarians lived in that vilayet with Greeks crowding the coastal towns. And those Bulgarians called themselves Macedonian because they lived in the vilayet named Macedonia not because they viewed themselves as descendants of Megas Alexandros. The claiming lineage to Megas Alexandros is a recent thing initially started by Stalin who wanted to incorporate the Greek province of Macedonia. He had the Bulgarians in the province of Blagoevgrad forcibly re-identify themselves as Macedonian not Bulgarian and this was carried out by Georgi Dimitrov (a famous Bulgarian communist in league with Stalin and partially with Tito who planned the incorporation of Bulgaria and Macedonia as whole before the Tito-Stalin split). Obviously when the communists lost the civil war in Greece and the idea was thrown out but the people there just kept using the name Macedonia and Macedonians as their ancestors had and now with the age of information here -- they were able to put 1 and 1 together that the name is related to the ancient people of Macedonia who conquered more than half of the known world at the time.

    The vilifying of Bulgarians in FYROM is also a recent thing started by radical nationalists in FYROM because they want to claim the history of IMRO as their own, not Bulgaria's. And a lot of their national heroes are Bulgarians but they continue to deny that they are Bulgarians but Macedonians. Just fucking ridiculous.
    Yes. So this is why they are anti-Bulgarian, not despite being Bulgarians themselves, but because of it. Because they don't want to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riippumaton View Post
    Yes. So this is why they are anti-Bulgarian, not despite being Bulgarians themselves, but because of it. Because they don't want to be.
    Yeah, I just felt like typing the whole thing, lol. Bad me, back on topic!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
    That's true, I forgot to add that point. FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.
    What's wrong with them, they accuse us of "genocide" for the... greek-bulgarian exchange of populations, that was arranged at the Neuilly treaty.
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