Classify seven female French politicians of North African origin

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[aherne]

Rachida Dati: Alpine + Med (passes as Euro)
Nora Berra: Afalou + Berberid (passes as Euro)
the rest: typical berbers (mix of East Med and Alpine)

Both Rachida Dati and Najat Vallaud-Belkacem are very attractive. They both pass with ease as Italian.

[Yuffayur]

Mostly Med + CM, passes in NW Africa, and some in Southern Europe. as a bunch they look very NorthWestern African(Berbers).

[Ulla]

Both Rachida Dati and Najat Vallaud-Belkacem are very attractive. They both pass with ease as Italian.

Not really.

[Tooting Carmen]

Not really.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but please explain why not even so.

[Ouistreham]

As far as i know, none of them have french parents so there s no surprise they just look North African as expected, and would have hard time passing as European anywhere. Dati is Algerian-Moroccan, Berra, only Algerian, not sure about the others, but i would guess not.

The only one with some European ancestry is Najat Belkacem who has a Spanish grand-mother.

[Ulla]

I'm inclined to agree with you, but please explain why not even so.

Surely they both can't pass with ease as Italian. Even if Rachida and Najat are not average North African, they are still too much exotic to an average Italian look. That kind of exotism you can only found in a very low percentage of south Italians.

The mouth of Rachida Dati and other details make her surely more North African than an average South European.

[Tooting Carmen]

Surely they both can't pass with ease as Italian. Because they are too much exotic to an average Italian look, that kind of exotism you can only found in a very low percentage of south Italians.

The mouth of Rachida Dati and other details make her surely more North African than an average South European.

And what about Nora Berra?

[Ulla]

And what about Nora Berra?

She looks to me more an exotic Spanish than an exotic Italian.

Is really Berra a North African surname?

[D´Sanglard]

She looks to me more an exotic Spanish than an exotic Italian.

Is really Berra a North African surname?

I thought about that too. I have a friend, français de souche and his surname is Berra. There is also an ice hockey player, Swiss, called Reto Berra and he is totally European