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A lot of people like Ireland.
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The English went from living in a cramped corner of a no-name Island to making that Island the most important one on earth, dominating effectively the entire worlds population, and directly ruling over more of the earths surface than anyone else.
So now let's hear it for what the Irish did.
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It's politically incorrect for them but the Irish could take more ownership and pride in their contribution to the Empire, regardless of their overall antipathy. They were always overrepresented in the military, and especially so if you include Anglo-Irish. Their contribution to the establishment of the Australian colonies is also well appreciated. It's the same with Scottish nationalists, they've made the political choice to divorce themselves from their own (great) history and leading role in it, which is a shame.
It has been estimated that during the North American conflict, from the British Army 16% of the rank and file and 31% of the COs were Irishmen.[7] There were Irishmen fighting on both sides; a standout story from the diary of Sergeant Roger Lamb recalls how Patrick Maguire of the 9th Regiment of Foot spotted his own brother fighting on the side of the American Patriots during the Saratoga campaign.[8] In following years, the Irish would swell the ranks to the extent that by 1813 the British Army's total manpower was "1/2 English, 1/6 Scottish and 1/3 Irish."[9]At the other famous British victory of the Napoleonic Age a decade earlier; the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805; around a quarter of the Royal Navy crew present (3,573 people) were Irishmen.[15][16]Many Ireland-born people have been awarded the Victoria Cross, the highest award for gallantry available to members of the British Armed Forces. In fact, from the nations which were part of the British Empire, the only country which has more winners is England with 614. Ireland, with 190 awards (not including Irish diaspora born abroad), outranks Scotland who have 158 and Australia who have 97. When awards per number of people in the total population are taken into account, Ireland's awards would be the equivalent of England gaining 2,850 Victoria Crosses.[26]
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It's difficult to compare Ireland to the UK or to England as they're in different weight divisions.
The English don't see much rivalry with the Irish, Scots or Welsh for that reason. Englands group is France, Spain, Germany & Italy.
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When it comes to the Irish the Americans and Australians almost seem like they are high on crack cocaine in their assessments and romantic ideas about the Irish.
Europeans tend to be more sober in their appraisals they know that Ireland could never reach the heights of England and Germany under any conditions deep down inside.
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