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    Default Ireland's ethnic minorities want more self-expression in St. Patrick's parades

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    Those members of Ireland's ethnic minorities who participated in last year's St Patrick's Day parade in Dublin want to be able to express their own cultures more fully in future events.

    The claim has been made by academics from Queen's University Belfast who have been working with colleagues in the University of Limerick and St Andrews in Scotland on a research project into Irish identities.
    While the parade participants congratulated the organisers on creating an impressive and inclusive event, many from Ireland's ethnic communities said they would prefer it if they were allowed to express themselves on their own terms, rather than have to adhere to an overarching theme.
    Dr Samuel Pehrson, from the Centre for Research in Political Psychology at Queen's, said: "Our research explores how the idea of the St Patrick's Day parades being promoted as a multicultural event, actually shaped the experience of the people taking part.

    "We found that people born in Ireland felt experiencing diversity in the parade could make their lives more interesting and enable them to sample something new and exotic.
    Equally they could carry on their lives as usual while feeling good about themselves for being 'tolerant'.
    "On the other hand, Ireland's new ethnic minorities are on much less secure ground in taking up their place in public life. We found that while last year's St Patrick's Day parade made strenuous efforts to include a lot of different communities within Ireland, it was less good at providing a place for those different groups to represent themselves on their own terms.

    "More broadly, the initial findings from this research are important because they help us all to understand that multiculturalism can be experienced quite differently by different people, according to how secure their inclusion is within the national community."
    The next stage in the project, entitled Embodying Imagined Communities: The Role of Collective Participation in the Transformation of Irish Identities, will study more systematically whether Irish identities are changed in any way by the experience of taking part in such events.

    Dr Pehrson will present the initial research findings at a conference in Belfast next month to mark the launch of Queen's Centre for Research in Political Psychology. The Centre, which is based in the School of Psychology at Queen's, offers an MA in Political Psychology, the only university in the UK and the rest of Europe to do so.
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    "We found that people born in Ireland felt experiencing diversity in the parade could make their lives more interesting and enable them to sample something new and exotic."


    In other words they asked non-Irish people.

    How outrageous is it to expect a cultural input into the host cultures celebrations and festivals?

    I fully expect the board are hard at trying to include Irish culture into the next Diwali or Chinese New Years celebrations?

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    Why dont they do a favour to Saint Patricks' Day and simply not participate on it but bozing discretedly at the pubs everywhere? For multiculturalism on the parade there's yet a fucking occasion which I known just for the TV news always emiting global shit normal people donot care another one about it: Noting Hill Carnival...and BTW WTF they call it Carnival if it's not before the "Cuaresma" (fasten and sacrificial time before Holly Week)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    I fully expect the board are hard at trying to include Irish culture into the next Diwali or Chinese New Years celebrations?
    I LOL'd.

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    When you get right down to it some “intellectuals” have a problem with white people celebrating their own culture.

    That’s all it is.
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    The holiday is a fucking joke in the USA.

    Seriouly.... All I saw on my Facebook were people who probably could not even determine if they had any Irish heritage celebrating/hailing it.....

    Most probably don't even know who St. Patrick even was....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    The holiday is a fucking joke in the USA.

    Seriouly.... All I saw on my Facebook were people who probably could not even determine if they had any Irish heritage celebrating/hailing it.....

    Most probably don't even know who St. Patrick even was....
    Honestly, I hate St. Patrick's Day. But what the hell do we expect from regular people really? That they all are Irish if they want a reason to get drunk..that they all know the biography of St. Patrick?

    Most people understand that St. Patrick was supposedly the dude that brought Christianity to Ireland...they understand it is "important to the Irish". That's good enough for me. It's not people looking for a good reason to get drunk that bother me, hell I do that myself. It's the bullshit that they try to sell along with St. Patrick's day. Trying to make it into some Valentine's Day thing.

    Whatever. It's still the only day that has even any bit of meaning for people of European descent in America as sad as that is.

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    imagine if european or american expatriates tried to add some of there flare to national celebrations in asian/african countries? they would be laughed or run out at gun point or both in many nations. china has tolerance for no one in there land.

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