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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolai View Post
    Light skin and eyes. Any color hair. I begin questioning one's Whiteness when he/she has curly hair, dark eyes, epicanthic fold, short stature, etc.
    The features that you mentioned do not determine race.
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    No, but southern and northern europeans are genetically much closer(and compatible) to each other than to West asians or NAs. So, the idea that all europeans share a common ancestry isnt invalid or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakis View Post
    The features that you mentioned do not determine race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolai View Post
    I would prefer an answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    No, but southern and northern europeans are genetically much closer(and compatible) to each other than to West asians or NAs. So, the idea that all europeans share a common ancestry isnt invalid or anything.
    It depends which groups you mean. Greeks, South Italians and Maltese are closer to Northern Europeans than to Gulf Arabs, but at the same time closer to Caucasians, Turks and Levantines than to Northern Europeans. On the other hand, it is true that Northern Italians and Iberians (minus Canarians) are closer to Northern Europeans than to any MENAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakis View Post
    I would prefer an answer.
    I'm sure you would. I can't stand those who reply to me only to try and prove me wrong. It's highly annoying, and a form of trolling. How many fucking Negroids do you see with pale skin and blue eyes? Next time you reply to me, try not to piss me off and I might reply with something other than an emoticon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    It depends which groups you mean. Greeks, South Italians and Maltese are closer to Northern Europeans than to Gulf Arabs, but at the same time closer to Caucasians, Turks and Levantines than to Northern Europeans. On the other hand, it is true that Northern Italians and Iberians (minus Canarians) are closer to Northern Europeans than to any MENAs.
    On the PCA charts, Greeks cluster very closely with their neighbors, and other europeans, while the Turks cluster their ME neighbors and other west asians despite the geographic approximation between greece and tureky. All whites, whether they are southern or northern euros, are genetically more closer to each other than to other peoples and races.

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    This is my view.

    With the exception of far northern Italians and some of the more ethnically distinct Portuguese phenotypes, all Southern Europeans look more alike than any of them look to West Asians and North Africans. That is, most Iberians, most Italians, and nearly all Greeks pass better in one another's countries than in Lebanon, Armenia, Iraq.

    However, I think that most southern Italians, many Greeks, and nearly all Maltese pass better in Anatolia, Caucasus, and the Levant than anywhere north of the Alps, Danube, or Pyrenees.

    Genetics backs this up too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    On the PCA charts, Greeks cluster very closely with their neighbors, and other europeans, while the Turks cluster their ME neighbors and other west asians despite the geographic approximation between greece and tureky. All whites, whether they are southern or northern euros, are genetically more closer to each other than to other peoples and races.
    Look more closely at said charts, and you'll find that Greeks are certainly closer to Turks than to any Northern Europeans (except maybe the French). That is my point. Greeks have very scant overlap phenotypically and genetically with anywhere north of Bucharest and Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolai View Post
    Light skin and eyes. Any color hair. I begin questioning one's Whiteness when he/she has curly hair, dark eyes, epicanthic fold, short stature, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakis View Post
    The features that you mentioned do not determine race.
    Which part was hard for you to understand?A race is not defined by hair,skin or eye color.
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