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    Quote Originally Posted by Radola View Post
    As far as I know, you can´t become a Jew, you must be born as one...So that´s it. As for the Judaism itself, why would anyone want to convert to the Judaism if he couldn´t be considered as a Jew - he would be outsider for Europeans and also for Jews...So it´s a nonsense IMHO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynfrith View Post
    A non-Jew can convert to Judaism. I don't know the ins and outs, but I know that it's a lengthy process.
    Theoretically it's possible to convert to any form of Judaism, but in practice it's near impossible to convert to Orthodox Judaism. To Reform or Liberal Judaism you can.

    I know this because Reform Judaism is the only organised religion that I've ever found even remotely interesting, and during an earlier stage of my life, during what must have been a temporary loss of reason, I toyed with the idea of converting into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch View Post
    Theoretically it's possible to convert to any form of Judaism, but in practice it's near impossible to convert to Orthodox Judaism. To Reform or Liberal Judaism you can.

    I know this because Reform Judaism is the only organised religion that I've ever found even remotely interesting, and during an earlier stage of my life, during what must have been a temporary loss of reason, I toyed with the idea of converting into it.
    Then you´re probably right, I don´t have such a complex knowledge of Judaism, the kind of Judaism I was reffering to was the Orthodox one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Who are "we"?
    European Nationalists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pallamedes View Post
    What about Confucianism or Mohism or any of the other Sinic belief systems? Or Shinto? Or Deism, which is partly based in the [Semitic] Biblical tradition? Or do we all put horned helmets on our heads and pretend to be ye olde tyme hęšen folk or people from the land of Boreas?
    Well christianity has been a part of European culture for an eternity. We must stand together christian, pagan or atheist. I have a negative opinion of christianity but I am willing to stand by European christian Nationalists if they would stand by me. Like it or not christianity is now an European religion. Those other beliefs are not a part of our culture. Those religions major enemies of Europe. I dont think a European can be a Nationalist if they practice a non-European religion.
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    Confucianism as a philosophy teaches a societal-based meritocracy and the perfection of a man into a junzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junzi). There's no religious element to it for the most part; Confucius acknowledged the providence of Heaven, but that's about it. There've been plenty of western Confucians, with Matteo Ricci being one of the earliest.

    Likewise, Jews have been a part of European culture for over 2,000 years, to Rome itself (and probably earlier to Athens). So, in many ways, the Jews are more European than the boorish cretins who constantly denounce them as being aliens who bring alien ideas with them:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...Christian_Rome.

    Or does Europe mean the land of Boreas alone, where the blonde-headed, blue-eyed folk dwell?

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    Jews have lived in within European culture for millenia, but they've never been part of European culture. Except when it suits them. Otherwise they have been absolutely hostile to European culture and its fundamental building blocks, such as Catholicism.
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