"The death penalty has no place in the 21st century"

**~~Dictator~~** · 10-25-2014, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

You can't honestly call yourself civilized or humane or advanced if you support state murder. But if you're okay with that, it's your problem I guess. People like you should have no place in modern politics though, imo. No power.

Murder > Torture

And I will be a politician one day. Wait for it.

**Loki** · 10-25-2014, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Quid-Pro-Quo

cruel/imhumane are the rapists , murderers etc. (especially when children and women are the victims) and I dont see any reason to sympathize with them or have mercy

they are just garbage and ballast and I dont see any reason putting them in jail and keeping them alive by giving them food and other resources that humans need and even bother dealing with them instead of just throwing them in the shredder because thats what they deserve

Of course your first point is correct, but two wrongs don't make a right. The old Jewish "an eye for an eye" philosophy is not something that sits well with me. It's decadent and barbaric.

**Loki** · 10-25-2014, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dictator

Murder > Torture

Imprisonment is not torture. Nobody in their right mind would believe that.

And I will be a politician one day. Wait for it.

Good luck. You'd do well in some despotic African countries with your views.

Gustave H · 10-25-2014, 10:55 PM

I disagree. The death penalty must be given to more and more criminals. However, I disagree with the execution of that Iranian woman.

**Dombra** · 10-25-2014, 10:56 PM

I am against death penalty 99 of 100 times if you ask me as some really deserve it. The Iranian woman does not.

Gustave H · 10-25-2014, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Of course your first point is correct, but two wrongs don't make a right. The old Jewish "an eye for an eye" philosophy is not something that sits well with me. It's decadent and barbaric.

I must say, I like the old eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth philosophy. It's a good one.

**~~Hadouken~~** · 10-25-2014, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Of course your first point is correct, but two wrongs don't make a right. The old Jewish "an eye for an eye" philosophy is not something that sits well with me. It's decadent and barbaric.

it does make sense

I mean who are you (or people who think like you) to have the right to deny mr. and mrs. whatever getting their revenge for the loss of their child who got raped and killed by a scumbag ?

imagine somebody kills your child ...wouldnt you want the asshole to be beaten to death ? would I have the right to take it away from you only to feel "civilized" ?

**Loki** · 10-25-2014, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Nikolai

I must say, I like the old eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth philosophy. It's a good one.

Yeah I know you'd like it

**Loki** · 10-25-2014, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Quid-Pro-Quo

it does make sense

I mean who are you (or people who think like you) to have the right to deny mr. and mrs. whatever getting their revenge for the loss of their child who got raped and killed by a scumbag ?

imagine somebody kills your child ...wouldnt you want the asshole to be beaten to death ? would I have the right to take it away from you only to feel "civilized" ?

Revenge and justice are two different concepts.

**~~Hadouken~~** · 10-25-2014, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Revenge and justice are two different concepts.

not really ...why ? because it is not you who loses a person you love in the example I gave so it is not you who decides what is justice for those people who are the victims