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    Quote Originally Posted by robar View Post
    bah shoult I searh it for you? Of course I won't
    of course you wound because you have no arguments or evidence for it..

    where do you get it from?

    and why are you showing off with bratislava? until early 20th century, it had a german majority, and hungarian language was spoken more than slovak
    i get it from the hungarians i know and from the political propaganda in hungary by garda and orban..
    and from the fact that hungarians always try to prove something to us because they lack self esteem and are liars they make up stories of great hungary which never existed because majority of its inhabitants were slovaks, croats, dalmatians, romanians et cetera.. and so it is with majority of hungarians today they have r1a slavic haplogroup, slavic words in their language, slavic folklore(kroj) and so on.. you cannot change your history no matter how hard you try!.. if you want to see your real roots and history you should visit the siberian and ugrofinnic nomads sami, mansi, lanky, khanty etc. (your ancestors)

    interestingly both bratislava and budapest are derived from slavic names, yes there were not germans but austrians here in the monarchy but it is still a city which was once part of great moravian slavic kingdom and now part of slovak republic which is nothing more then a new country for the original slavic inhabitants which live here since at least 1500years! so bratislava is a slovak town with mixed architecture, most old town is built by austrian architects not hungarians.. even the german name pressburg is derived from vratislaburgium and uratislava and before monarchy the great moravian emperor had ist seat and settlement on the place where the modern castle is located..

    not to mention upper hungary(slovakia) was always the richest industrial region in monarchy..
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    Great Moravia Empire

    During the migration of peoples, at around the middle of the first millennium AD, the Slavs settled in the area of present-day Bratislava. Led by Samo, they formed an empire named after him – the first known organised community of Slavs.




    The empire's formation was in part a response to raids by the nomadic Avars and the need to defend against them. After Samo’s death the empire dissolved into principalities. The subsequent merger of these principalities formed the Great Moravian Empire. This Slavic realm reached its apogee during the reign of the most distinguished noble, Svätopluk. The start of its gradual decline is linked to the first written mention of Bratislava Castle in the Salzburg chronicles from 907, when a battle took place near the castle between Hungarian and Bavarian troops. The Magyars won the battle and subsequently occupied the eastern part of Great Moravia.
    http://www.visit.bratislava.sk/en/vi...d=1007&p1=3310

    balaton and budapest were also slavic derived from budín and pešt and bLatnohrad (balaton) principality of pribina. also the name hungary is not hungarian but comes from slavic uhorsko = ugorsko = from slavic u gary = surrounded by mountains, germanized ungarn.. magyar = megye comes from slavic medza (border)

    you were nomads before you came here so how dare you make fun of slovaks who teached you everything..
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    More than just this. Kingdom of Hungary was direct successor of Great Moravia. Teritorial organization including terminology is the same in KoH as it used to be in GM. Magyar name for county "Megye" is from Slovak "Medza", leader of the county in Magyar is "ispán" a that is as well from Slovak "župan" and thus I can continue with Slovak words in Magyar into infinity.

    Interesting is also the comparation of development of settlements in different parts of former GM. When Czechs annexed western part of GM wich is now south-east region Morava of Czech republic, they let the settlements of former GM abandoned, and founded new settlements. These new settlement are here till today, cities like Brno or Olomouc. The former GM settlement now we are discovering as archeological sites.

    On contrary, the proces in eastern part of GM (including also pannonia) was different. When nomadic Magyars came into the carpathian basin, they did not destroy settlements here, they just infiltrated them. That is basically because Magyars were nomads and simply didnt know how to build a settlement. Thus the old settlements of GM in Slovakia and in Hungary are still present today. Cities like Nitra (Nitrava) or Bratislava (Preslava) in SVK or Veszprém (Bezprín), Budapest (Budín) and Esztergom (Strägom) in Hun.

    Magyars tend to claim, that they were the builders of Hungarian towns, that they came into blank area and many more. But seriously, when did they(nomads) learn how to build cities, when they spent 100 years (since their arrival till foundation of KoH) by looting, pillaging and slaughterring of half of Europe? Magyars only over time learned how to lead a settled life, majority of them were nomadic up to 13th ct. And Magyar chauvinists know it. They also know very well, that everything important for settled life they learned from us. Just look at Magyar vocabulary related to agriculture, housing, cuisine and you will find that so called Magyar expressions are nothing more just deformed Slovak words. This is the reason, why Magyars hate us - Slovaks most in whole world. Because they ceated a wonderfull story about glorious victors ("vitéz" in Magyar, wich is another Slovak word "výťaz"), that stood down from horseback and started to build stone castles and cathedrals. And when they are confrontated with reality, their unconscious can not accept it. So if there is any evidence, that can undermine their version of history, they must destroy it. Therefore Magyarisation, therefore thousands Magyar coments about nonexistent Slovaks and their history on every video, that has something to do with us on youtube, therefore hatefull replies on Slovaks in every forum you can find.

    As Slovak writer Jerguš Ferko said, "It is a rebellion of cultural copy, against its original and effort to replace it".

    And I also can mention here genetics, by wich you can see how close are present Magyars and Slovaks to each other. Both are very close to Czech, Poles or Ukrainians and therefore Slavic. That just show enormous nuber of Slovaks, that have been assimilated into Magyars

    http://www.slavorum.org/forum/discus...ality-of-nitra
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    Am I right, that you claim The Great Moravia was a proto-slovakian country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    of course you wound because you have no arguments or evidence for it..


    i get it from the hungarians i know and from the political propaganda in hungary by garda and orban..
    and from the fact that hungarians always try to prove something to us because they lack self esteem and are liars they make up stories of great hungary which never existed because majority of its inhabitants were slovaks, croats, dalmatians, romanians et cetera.. and so it is with majority of hungarians today they have r1a slavic haplogroup, slavic words in their language, slavic folklore(kroj) and so on.. you cannot change your history no matter how hard you try!.. if you want to see your real roots and history you should visit the siberian and ugrofinnic nomads sami, mansi, lanky, khanty etc. (your ancestors)

    interestingly both bratislava and budapest are derived from slavic names, yes there were not germans but austrians here in the monarchy but it is still a city which was once part of great moravian slavic kingdom and now part of slovak republic which is nothing more then a new country for the original slavic inhabitants which live here since at least 1500years! so bratislava is a slovak town with mixed architecture, most old town is built by austrian architects not hungarians.. even the german name pressburg is derived from vratislaburgium and uratislava and before monarchy the great moravian emperor had ist seat and settlement on the place where the modern castle is located..

    not to mention upper hungary(slovakia) was always the richest industrial region in monarchy..
    in fact austrian ethnicity didn't exist before ww2,they always called themselves germans and everyone else considered them germans. even today they are germans but they pretend they are "austrian". bavarian folklore culture and dialect is closer to austrian than north germany...
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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    http://www.visit.bratislava.sk/en/vi...d=1007&p1=3310 balaton and budapest were also slavic derived from budín and pešt and bLatnohrad (balaton) principality of pribina. also the name hungary is not hungarian but comes from slavic uhorsko = ugorsko = from slavic u gary = surrounded by mountains, germanized ungarn.. magyar = megye comes from slavic medza (border) you were nomads before you came here so how dare you make fun of slovaks who teached you everything..
    Slavic is not automatically slovak. The "Slovak" ethnic group formed only in the early modern era. Just because some speakers of the slavic language family existed in Pannonia, it does not mean automatically the ancestors of modern slovaks.

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    HAhaha LEGACY )))))

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moravia#Legacy

    Great Moravia also became a prominent theme of the Czech and Slovak romantic nationalism of the 19th century.[257] The Byzantine double-cross thought to have been brought by Cyril and Methodius is part of the symbol of Slovakia until today and the Constitution of Slovakia refers to Great Moravia in its preamble. Interest about that period rose as a result of the national revival in the 19th century. Great Moravian history has been regarded as a cultural root of several Slavic nations in Central Europe and it was employed in attempts to create a single Czechoslovak identity in the 20th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    http://www.visit.bratislava.sk/en/vi...d=1007&p1=3310

    balaton and budapest were also slavic derived from budín and pešt and bLatnohrad (balaton) principality of pribina. also the name hungary is not hungarian but comes from slavic uhorsko = ugorsko = from slavic u gary = surrounded by mountains, germanized ungarn.. magyar = megye comes from slavic medza (border)

    you were nomads before you came here so how dare you make fun of slovaks who teached you everything..
    Omg, the Balaton name is slovenian, the "Hungaria" name is latin, the "magyar" is uralic word means "people".

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    Kde ste,bratia moji?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skif View Post
    Kde ste,bratia moji?
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