Pictures of the Netherlands

**Samnium** · 10-20-2019, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

The quiet moments.. here in Overijssel:

Zutphen:

The 2nd picture looks almost Tuscany lol.

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**The Lawspeaker** · 10-20-2019, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Samnium

The 2nd picture looks almost Tuscany lol.

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With the same golden light, you mean ? Yeah I remember that light. It's just too flat to be Tuscany - unless you're referring to the plains around Pisa or Cecina.

Amsterdam can be beautiful too:

**Samnium** · 10-21-2019, 12:25 AM

Could be Maremma also.

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**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2019, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Samnium

Could be Maremma also.

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Could be. I have only been there as my hotel was in Cecina. But it's funny how the landscape sometimes did remind me of the Netherlands (minus the vegetation which is, of course, completely different) until you drove like 5 km's inland and ended up in hill country.

**renaissance12** · 10-21-2019, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

With the same golden light, you mean ? Yeah I remember that light. It's just too flat to be Tuscany - unless you're referring to the plains around Pisa or Cecina.

Amsterdam can be beautiful too:

Saint Petersburg is a beautiful city.. but Amsterdam has a different charm.. it is a Venice of "North"

**renaissance12** · 10-21-2019, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

"Shakes head". I wonder where that money is coming from.

They say: 75% from "my pocket" and 25% from E.U...

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2019, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by renaissance12

They say: 75% from "my pocket" and 25% from E.U...

Sometimes I think that whoever lids fires in a forest should be made to pay the cost of rebuilding it. How ? You know what they say. "Work makes you free..."

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2019, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by renaissance12

Saint Petersburg is a beautiful city.. but Amsterdam has a different charm.. it is a Venice of "North"

Pete isn't too bad but I think it's a bit overdone. It's trying too hard to be beautiful. Cities like Amsterdam, Stockholm or Venice just are because they've grown organically. They don't have to pretend. And, yes, I find Amsterdam's old mediaeval inner core to be much more beautiful than the 17th century canal ring.

**renaissance12** · 10-21-2019, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Pete isn't too bad but I think it's a bit overdone. It's trying too hard to be beautiful. Cities like Amsterdam, Stockholm or Venice just are because they've grown organically. They don't have to pretend. And, yes, I find Amsterdam's old mediaeval inner core to be much more beautiful than the 17th century canal ring.

From Italian point of view.. Saint Petersburg.. is a "NEW" city ....only 300 years old...... My "first" home was 600 years old .. nothing "special" in my village..

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-21-2019, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by renaissance12

From Italian point of view.. Saint Petersburg.. is a "NEW" city ....only 300 years old...... My "first" home was 600 years old .. nothing "special" in my village..

It's the same in the Netherlands. Amsterdam started off as a mediaeval village which got lucky because some dike broke, flooding the whole area north of the city and creating the current IJsselmeer and IJ and because the county of Holland deemed it wise to give it market rights. They built a dam and became a trading town that got city rights and the rest is organic history. It's not like Pete who just got dragged from the mud using slave labour in a land recently seized from the Swedes.