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  • 1 - I love them and their country

    9 10.47%
  • 2 - I like them

    19 22.09%
  • 3 - They're OK

    19 22.09%
  • 4 - I'm totally indifferent about them, they can do as they please

    24 27.91%
  • 5 - I dislike them, I prefer to have no contact

    8 9.30%
  • 666 - I hate them all, put them to concentration camps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ars Moriendi View Post
    Not really. The Carpathian bassin was always a crossroads of people. In terms of "blood" (would be more accurate to say ancestry), you can track Pannonians, Huns, Avars, Slavs of different kinds, some Romanians,some Cumans, some Germans, etc. That is secondary, the thing that does matter is that the State that developed the land from a wild backwater with few cities, to one of the oldest and most important kingdoms in European history, was created by the Magyars under the Árpád dinasty.

    If other peoples that lived there before, or that came after spoused the Magyar identity, only proves the great value that the State has.

    Pretty similar to all the old kingdoms of Europe, France being a great example (oldest State in Europe) of how the minority of Franks, managed to revamp the Gallo-Roman majority culture, blend with it, and afterwards assimilate more people into it, whether Scandinavian Normans, Celtic Bretons or North Italian Savoyans.

    Similar cases can be found everywhere. Charles V was born in Flanders and his first language was probably Dutch, yet he spent the majority of his time in Spain, and referred to the Spanish language as "the only one I use to address God". His son, John of Austria, whose mother was either Bavarian or Ashkenazi, always served the Spanish Crown, he was referred to as "Juan" by most European courts, and his identity has been sealed in Spanish history as one of the greatest generals of the Spanish Empire, in spite of being Dutch/Germanic by ancestry. Similar case to the Cardenal Infante, victor of Nordlingen.

    So, the case of Hunyadi and Corvinus isn't that strange really. People that chose to serve a greater interest and identity out of their free will+education. Hungarians recognize them for that reason, not because of an ill-conceived notion of purity, that is actually devoid of meaning both in Hungarian history and human demographics.

    In fact, there is one thing I find much more interesting that you might have noticed:

    - Old countries with proud histories (France, Hungary, Spain, even England): Their accomplishment and heroes are numerous and they are recognized for factual victories and service to the country, regardless of their ethnic origin and personal circumstances.
    - New countries, created from the XIX Century onwards: Little accomplishments to show for, and that void is in turn filled with rewriting of history. FYROM is the best example of this, tying themselves to Alexander the Great with ancestry as sole vector, in order to fill an otherwise short and uninspiring history.
    Romania is a state formed by more little states(nation state). Romanian nation is a old one, you cant compare romanian nation with macedonia.
    Last edited by Vlach; 11-11-2014 at 02:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    Romania is a state formed by more little states(nation state). Romanian nation is a old one, you can compare romanian nation with macedonia.
    What about Macedonia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crank View Post
    What about Macedonia?
    Macedonia is a new nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    Macedonia is a new nation.
    Macedonia is not a new nation but a new country consisting of many ethnicities with distinct cultures (ie. Bulgarians, Albanians, Turks) but is also a wider region which includes Macedonia (the newly created country), parts of Eastern Bulgaria, and parts of Northern Greece (the historical Macedonia)

    But Ancient Macedonians have never been a nation but were a Greek tribe (just like other Greek tribes) who belonged to the Hellenic nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crank View Post
    Macedonia is not a new nation but a new country consisting of many ethnicities with distinct cultures (ie. Bulgarians, Albanians, Turks) but is also a wider region which includes Macedonia (the newly created country), parts of Eastern Bulgaria, and parts of Northern Greece (the historical Macedonia)

    But Ancient Macedonians have never been a nation but were a Greek tribe (just like other Greek tribes) who belonged to the Hellenic nation.
    The people called the macedonians as bulgarians



    Anyway, there's are more threads about macedonia on their subforum. Go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    Romania is a state formed by more little states(nation state). Romanian nation is a old one, you cant compare romanian nation with macedonia.
    As far as I'm aware, the first country that could anyhow be related to Romanians, is the Principality of Wallachia, created in 1330. It was only the southern region of current Romania, whose current form has less than 100 years.

    The Kingdom of Hungary was created in the year 1000, and even under Szent István, its historic territorial form was developed between 1000 and 1100:



    Which is why Transleuthania has always been a coherent geographic-historical continuum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    If you are not hungarian and you hate us, you have some problems.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Balkan_War

    Backstabbers.

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    I like them and the country. I have spent quite a bit of time in Romania and I really enjoyed myself. However, the whole situation with the stray dogs and gypsies abusing the animals and shitting in the streets put me off A LOT. However, some of the Romanian people I met were respectful, friendly, helpful and would do anything to make my time there more enjoyable. Would go back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurelin_ View Post
    I like them and the country. I have spent quite a bit of time in Romania and I really enjoyed myself. However, the whole situation with the stray dogs and gypsies abusing the animals and shitting in the streets put me off A LOT. However, some of the Romanian people I met were respectful, friendly, helpful and would do anything to make my time there more enjoyable. Would go back!
    The gypsies belong to the field and the dogs watching them.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu8D9GaQwIs

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