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    Default italian people look more ancient etruscans or ancient italic tribes?

    which people had more impact on the population

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    We don't have any way of knowing what either one looked like..

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    Italic tribes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    We don't have any way of knowing what either one looked like..
    We do, from skeletal remains, and contemporary depictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMalus View Post
    Not so much about the Etruscans. We know that contemporary central italians look like the latium mix during the middle and possibly early republic (not enough sample size on the later) but the Etruscans and original italics are mostly the subject of hypothesis, many of which have been shattered by anthropological data later on.
    There is a lot of anthropological data on Etruscans. They also left many depictions of themselves, but maybe they were stylized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMalus View Post
    Where?
    Don't remember, I read a bunch of studies of Etruscan skulls, but I don't remember what sites they were on. Here are two I remembered off the top of my head though:

    ''In conclusion, the Etruscan skulls from Tarquinia were
    gracile and showed similarities in metrical traits to those
    of Hallstatt-Celtic skulls from Hallstatt in Austria and Lat~
    ne-Celtic skulls from Manching in South Bavaria. Due
    to these similarities with neighbouring skeletal remains
    on the other side of the Alps the hypothesis could be supported
    that the Etruscans are more original inhabitants of
    Etruria than immigrants from Asia Minor.''

    from: The Etruscan skulls of the Rostock anatomical collection - How do they compare with the skeletal findings of the first thousand years B.C.?
    Horst Claassen and Andreas Wree


    The cranial evidence from Etruscan tombs substantiates the belief that these non-Indo-European, non-Semitic speakers were typical examples of the earlier Bronze Age population of the eastern Mediterranean. As with the earlier el Argar people of Spain, a mesocephalic mean for the cranial index covers the presence of pronounced long heads and round heads, with the two extremes, in this case, forming about equal proportions. Actually, the metrical characteristics of the two series are much alike, but the Etruscan skulls were a little larger, which is not surprising, for the el Argar crania were for the most part rather small.

    The Etruscan skulls are notably smooth in surface relief, with little in the way of browridges; the side walls of the vaults, seen from above, are not parallel, as with the longer Mediterranean forms, but converging, with the greatest breadth in the parietals and a narrow forehead; the orbits are high and rounded, and the nose narrow. The Etruscans, with a typically Near Eastern cranial form, resemble both the Cappadocian type found in the Hittite period at Alishar, and the planoccipital brachycephals which appeared in the Bronze Age cemeteries of Cyprus. By Roman times these two varieties had blended, to a large extent, into a variable mesocephalic form, to which the Phoenicians as well largely belonged.

    It would be difficult to overemphasize the importance of the migrations of eastern Mediterranean peoples by sea to Italy, Spain, and the islands between these two peninsulas in protohistoric as well as in prehistoric times. Especially in Spain and Italy, large numbers of peoples immigrated, who added, to the basic Mediterranean population of Neolithic origin, Near Eastern elements which may still be discerned among Italians and Spaniards today. The debt of the Romans to the Etruscans, genetically as well as culturally, was especially great.-C.S. Coon-Races Of Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMalus View Post
    So basically central and southern italians are metrically similar to Etruscans rather than northern italics or am I misinterprating the study?
    You're misinterprating the study.

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    Italians are an extremely mixed race.

    I don't think they look like ancient caveman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMalus View Post
    So basically central and southern italians are metrically similar to Etruscans rather than northern italics or am I misinterprating the study?
    They showed some similarities to Celtic Skulls in South Germany/Austria too, but they seem to be closest to Central Italians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deidara View Post
    They showed some similarities to Celtic Skulls in South Germany/Austria too, but they seem to be closest to Central Italians.
    So according to that there was a continuum between the La Tene/Hallstatt and Terramare/Villanova cultures?

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