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    Default Chile, Latin-America's first Developed Country?

    Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...a-by-2020.html

    Pinera Says Chile Will Be First Developed Latin America Nation
    By Ronald Henkoff and James Attwood Dec 22, 2011

    Chilean President Sebastian Pinera, who earned his fortune by setting up Chile’s first credit card network and revitalizing Lan Airlines SA, aims to vault his country into the ranks of developed nations by 2020. He talked to Bloomberg Markets magazine editor Ronald Henkoff and Bloomberg News Santiago bureau chief James Attwood on Dec. 6.

    During the interview, which took place in Pinera’s sparsely furnished office at the Moneda presidential palace in Santiago, the sound of demonstrators outside marching in opposition to a hydroelectric project were a reminder of the social challenges the president has had to face since he took office in March 2010.

    Pinera, who earned a doctorate in economics at Cambridge, Massachusetts-based Harvard University and once was a representative of Apple Inc. (AAPL) in Chile, has seen his popularity fall to 35 percent in November from a peak of 63 percent in October 2010, Bloomberg Markets reports in its February issue.

    Dressed in a blue suit with a Chilean flag pin on the lapel, a starched white shirt and conservative red tie, Pinera spoke rapidly as he discussed his plans for his country, his views on seven months of student-led protests and his openness to foreign investment.


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    Here are excerpts from the interview:

    Defeating Poverty

    “Chile, which was the poorest Spanish colony in Latin America, is now the country with the highest per capita income. Our goal is to become a developed country and defeat poverty before the end of this decade. We need to do many, many things to achieve that.

    “First of all, we need to grow at least 6 percent per year in order to reach $25,000 by 2020, which is roughly the average per capita income of most OECD countries. We need to create 1 million jobs to defeat underdevelopment and end poverty. The old pillars -- to have a stable democracy and market economy that is integrated with the world -- are not enough.

    “We will have major education reform to increase the quality and the coverage of our system. We must increase investments in science and technology -- we will need to double that as a percentage of GDP -- as well as promote innovation and entrepreneurship. We also must improve income distribution.

    “We are on track, because the average growth rate during the 20 months we have been in power is 6.5 percent. The average growth rate of the former government was 2.7 percent. We aim to create 1 million jobs in four years, which with our labor force of 7.5 million, would be the equivalent of 15 million jobs in the U.S. We have already created 600,000 jobs, so we are on track there as well.

    “We need to increase productivity to grow 6 percent a year. We are moving in the right direction: Productivity was negative in 2009, zero in 2010 and will be positive in 2011.”

    Obstacles and Protests

    “We have had to face three major threats that were not predicted. The first was the earthquake that hit our country in February 2010. We lost in a few minutes one out of every three schools, one of every three hospitals and, in total, $30 billion, which is 14 percent of GDP.

    “The second problem is the international economy. We are very pessimistic about what will happen in Europe and the U.S. I think Europe is already in recession. The U.S. has not been able to recover from the 2008 crisis; the recovery will be slow and will take a lot of time. The emerging countries, including China, are not growing as they were before.

    Social Unrest

    “For us, it’s very important what is happening in the Asia-Pacific region because they have become by far our most important trading partners. The third phenomenon we’ve had to face is social unrest, which has been a bit overestimated by the press. Only 5 percent of secondary and university-level students were protesting, but they made a lot of noise.

    “They were asking for free education for everybody with no conditions, and we don’t agree with that. We think that we should guarantee access to quality education for everybody and scholarships to those who need scholarships.

    “We agree with them that we need to improve dramatically the quality of our education. But the main problems are not at the higher level; they are at the preschool and kindergarten level. If you’re not able to intervene at that early stage with children that are coming from vulnerable homes, then sometimes it’s too late.

    “We have committed ourselves to cover all children belonging to households of the lowest 60 percent of the population.”

    ‘A Very Good Position’

    “We are in a very good position because we have solid fiscal accounts. Our public debt is negative. We are creditors to the world, not debtors.

    “Chile is a very open economy, and therefore we will be hit by the global deceleration. Our terms of trade are deteriorating, and of course, the confidence of consumers and investors will be affected. That’s why we’re predicting that the growth rate for 2012 will be between 4 percent and 5 percent, much lower than the 6.5 percent that we are expecting for 2011.

    “We are preparing what we call a contingency plan because we have the resources to undertake a pro-growth fiscal policy. We also can do something in our monetary policy by lowering interest rates. We have $15 billion in our foreign savings accounts that are designed specifically to compensate for bad years like the one we will face in 2012.”

    Chile’s Investment Climate

    “Chile is a very open country in every sense. We have huge opportunities to invest in Chile in many, many different sectors: energy, mining, agriculture, manufacturing and many others.

    “We have a very stable system, a very stable democracy, and we are very much committed to the rule of law, which is important because that gives certainty and stability that the rules will not be changed arbitrarily. I would like to send the message to foreign investors that they are most welcome in Chile and that they have huge opportunities.”
    Woow so guys, do you believe that Chile will one day really become the first developed country in Latin-America?

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    Umm I've been to Spain and to be fair the difference between this country and Chile is not massive at all.. I think the main difference has to do with Spain having a very big social network in terms of social security. The thing is Chile and Chileans tend to be very pro-free market so an unemployment insurance as the Spaniard one (I don't know how it's exactly called in English but "seguro de desempleo") would kind of go against our idiosyncrasy..

    Another difference has to do with Chile's classism, which is actually more cultural than anything but I think sometimes cultural issues influence people's view regarding a country being or not being developed.. for instance, Kuwait is not seen as part of the developed world cos even if it's got the money it's got, there's no real democracy, Human Rights are unimportant for the government, etc. Another issue is inequality, which in Chile is very massive.. I think it's the OECD country with the highest inequality levels.

    But yah, in terms of the economy, unemployment, infrastructure, etc., Chile -and especially Santiago- could be considered a developed country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighton View Post
    Umm I've been to Spain and to be fair the difference between this country and Chile is not massive at all.. I think the main difference has to do with Spain having a very big social network in terms of social security. The thing is Chile and Chileans tend to be very pro-free market so an unemployment insurance as the Spaniard one (I don't know how it's exactly called in English but "seguro de desempleo") would kind of go against our idiosyncrasy..

    Another difference has to do with Chile's classism, which is actually more cultural than anything but I think sometimes cultural issues influence people's view regarding a country being or not being developed.. for instance, Kuwait is not seen as part of the developed world cos even if it's got the money it's got, there's no real democracy, Human Rights are unimportant for the government, etc. Another issue is inequality, which in Chile is very massive.. I think it's the OECD country with the highest inequality levels.

    But yah, in terms of the economy, unemployment, infrastructure, etc., Chile -and especially Santiago- could be considered a developed country.
    By 2020 that sort of stuff can be solved anyway. Also, I think Turkey is the most unequal OECD country, rather than Chile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    By 2020 that sort of stuff can be solved anyway. Also, I think Turkey is the most unequal OECD country, rather than Chile.
    By Gini Coefficient I reckon it's Chile

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    Chile needs better public services, and it can reach a similar status, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighton View Post
    Umm I've been to Spain and to be fair the difference between this country and Chile is not massive at all.. I think the main difference has to do with Spain having a very big social network in terms of social security. The thing is Chile and Chileans tend to be very pro-free market so an unemployment insurance as the Spaniard one (I don't know how it's exactly called in English but "seguro de desempleo") would kind of go against our idiosyncrasy..
    There are not massive differences between Santiago and Spain overall, but if you compare the rest of the country there are many. Especially in rural areas, the difference between the Spanish and the Chilean ones are very big. There is also no large shack slums here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empecinado View Post
    There are not massive differences between Santiago and Spain overall, but if you compare the rest of the country there are many. Especially in rural areas, the difference between the Spanish and the Chilean ones are very big. There is also no large shack slums here.
    Have you been here??

    Didn't find massive difference between, for instance, La Serena and Almería.. or Granada and Concepción.. you're right about very rural areas, but these are indeed a very small part of Chile.

    Also we don't have "large shack slums".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighton View Post
    Have you been here??

    Didn't find massive difference between, for instance, La Serena and Almería.. or Granada and Concepción.. you're right about very rural areas, but these are indeed a very small part of Chile.

    Also we don't have "large shack slums".
    I agree Santiago and some other cities are similar to Spanish ones, but overall Spain is very different from Chile when comes to infrastructure, security, levels of inequality, etc. And we don't have nothing like the callampas.

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    Difference between Chile and Brazil is enormous. I've traveled to some Chilean cities (Santiago, Coquimbo/La Serena, Antofagasta). And the difference was really noticeable. Public transportation works, the people are richer and the "slums" would be just "poor" in Brazil. I also felt a lot safer. Antofagasta and Northern Chile is sort of poor, but not like in my country. Here we have very small, very rich areas, very small middle class areas, and HUGE slums/poor suburbs. Chile might not be a developed country yet, but it is definitely better than its neighbors.

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    The top 5 Latin American countries by HDI:

    1 Chile - (Ruled by a Socialist party)
    2 Cuba - (Ruled by a Communist party)
    3 Argentina - (Ruled by Left-wing faction of a Third Positionist/Fascist party)
    4 Uruguay - (Ruled by a Socialist-Communist coalition)
    5 Venezuela - (Ruled by a Socialist party)

    This speaks volumes.

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