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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    They should add "Mestizo" response to U.S. census race question.

    These guys seem to be confused and most of them mark "White", perhaps.

    Many of them are probably more Amerindian than White, or 50/50.



    Maybe Lebanese people, Kalash people, Turks, Armenians, some Berbers, some Iranians, etc.

    Many Middle Easterners or North Africans look like many Southern Europeans.
    Very few Latinos of any kind define as white.

    The Arab population of the US is rather small.
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    The majority of Latinos do not identify as white on it. Only 2-3% of Americans are 'white latinos.'
    Ok, thanks for this info. So apparently the video I watched is misleading.

    Yet still I think that they should add a new racial category to the census.

    Very few Latinos of any kind define as white.
    Then why are "Non-Hispanic Whites" only 62-64% in the U.S. according to wiki:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hispanic_whites

    They used to be >70% but that was before the 2000 census (69%) and in 1990 76%:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-His...e_or_territory

    Do Spanish-Americans and Portuguese-Americans identify as "Hispanic" as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Ok, thanks for this info. So apparently the video I watched is misleading.

    Yet still I think that they should add a new racial category to the census.



    Then why are "Non-Hispanic Whites" only 62-64% in the U.S. according to wiki:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hispanic_whites

    They used to be >70% but that was before the 2000 census (69%) and in 1990 76%:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-His...e_or_territory

    Do Spanish-Americans and Portuguese-Americans identify as "Hispanic" as well?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra..._and_ethnicity

    Usually not I should think, but Cuban Americans, who usually are white, will, for example.

    As you can see, in 2010 only about 91% of the population were white, black, asian or native. That's almost 10% non-white latino.
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    Concerning those "White Hispanics":

    Wikipedia article on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_H...tino_Americans

    Another pont of view: http://www.latinorebels.com/2014/05/...s-its-awesome/




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    Perhaps someone has already brought this up, but in the US, Middle Easterners and North Africans are categorized as Caucasian. Did you take that into account when looking at statistics for Caucasian/White populations in the US (the two terms are used interchangeably here).

    Good job on the statistics, I love statistics myself.

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    It's not a lie if you believe it.
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    But North Africans and Middle Easterners are few in numbers in the USA. For example in the 2000 census such ancestries were reported by 2,190,000 people (including 1,940,000 as "1st ancestry"). Various Iberian ancestries (mostly Spanish and Portuguese) were reported by some 3,670,000 Americans in 2000. Data on self-reported ancestry from 2000 census: http://www.speedyshare.com/ZAjCX/1st...ry-US-2000.xls

    And yes - it seems that U.S. Census Bureau counts people of European, Iberian ancestry as "Hispanic-Americans" as well.

    So there is no distinction made between Mexicans and Iberians when it comes to Hispanicness.

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    Based on census data from this file on ancestry responses in 2000:

    http://www.speedyshare.com/ZAjCX/1st...ry-US-2000.xls

    I made this graph (legend is below) showing 1st ancestry responses:



    Ancestry not reported - people who did not report any ancestry
    Uncodeable entry - ancestry reported but impossible to read
    Religious response - I suppose answers like "Jewish" are included here
    Names of U.S. states - responses like "Virginian" or "Californian"
    Mixed - includes responses such as "my ancestry is mixed".

    Can, Aus, NZ - Canada, Australia, New Zealand
    BIS - British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, etc.)
    CEu - Central Europe (mostly German ancestry)
    WEu - Western Europe (includes South-Western Europe)
    EEu - Eastern Europe (Polish is the largest ancestry here)
    Scn - Scandinavian 1st ancestries (including Finnish)
    Balk - Balkanic ancestries (South-Eastern Europe)
    Generic Eu - reports like "European", etc.

    NAfr, MEast - North African, Middle Eastern
    SE Asia - South-East Asian ancestries
    India, S Asia - India and South Asia
    CeAm, SAm, WIndies - Central & South Americas, West Indies
    Sub-Sah Afr - Sub-Saharan African ancestries
    Pacific - Pacific Islanders, Oceanians

    Native Am - Amerindian (Native Americans from both continents)

    =============================

    The most mysterious issue is what are the ancestries of people who did not report their ancestries? And what is the racial / continental breakdown among them (how many of them are European-Americans)?
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    PS: When you download the file then ignore "Sheet 3" and "Sheet 2", data on ancestry from 2000 census is in "Sheet 1".

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Perhaps someone has already brought this up, but in the US, Middle Easterners and North Africans are categorized as Caucasian. Did you take that into account when looking at statistics for Caucasian/White populations in the US (the two terms are used interchangeably here).

    Good job on the statistics, I love statistics myself.
    I have never met an arab or mena who considered himself 'white'.

    Only 60% of the population is white. the rest of America is various other races.
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