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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    So I have a lot of free time on my hands and not enough friends, and I spent a few days (not 24:7, I'm not actually friendless you mugs) compiling a list of European populations by country. Not white, Caucasian, whatever, European, so ethnicities from the geographical continent of Europe from before 1492.

    North America:

    It was pretty difficult to find good stats for the Dutch possessions of Eustasius, Aruba, Saba, Curacao, Sint Maarten and Bonaire so they'll have to be included in the general Dutch (European) category, but from what I read they're not exactly white enclaves or very populous, so it doesn't really matter. North America has 4 majority European independent countries - Canada, the US, Costa Rica and Cuba. Puerto Rico says it's 3/4 European but we all know they have identity issues, and genetic results seem to suggest their ethnic European provenance is lower than 75% on average. The results range from less than half a percentage point for the Commonwealth realm of Grenada to probably everyone in the French overseas department of St Pierre et Miquelon.

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    284,089,969

    This is about 54% of the population of North America but bear in mind most of the rest are part-European, including most African-Americans and Afro-Caribbeans, which is serious population displacement for a continent that was 0% European in 1492.

    South America:

    There's a general perception that Argentines like to overstate their European blood. This perception is pretty accurate as Argentines think they're 97% European when the average Argentine is only 79% European by blood (though of course most Argentines are European, it's just definitely not as high as 97%). A similar phenomenon is true for Uruguay. On the other hand, in Brazil and Venezuela and other places, people seem to be pretty honest, even a bit strict (some Brazilian pardos are 90%+ European and the average is in the 70s) about declaring themselves to be European.

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    172,170,336

    This is about 44% of the continent but again, there are very few people without at least some European ancestry.

    Oceania:

    Apart from the obvious ANZAC countries, significant European populations seem to be limited to US and French colonies - this can be explained by the British having lots of colonies, by which I mean, if you're the UK, and you want to export population, you don't need to send them to no-one cares, the south Pacific. This trend holds true in Africa too. Most British expats are in the larger European countries and the former British colonies have smaller European populations, by and large.

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    24,451,924

    This is about 62% of the population of Oceania with significant mixed populations (especially amongst Aborigines and in the French overseas territories) which is even more impressive as we had no idea most of it existed 250 years ago.

    Central, East and South Asia:

    Asia is home to most of the world's population and the colonies Europe did have were treated as cash cows, not holiday destinations (and I'm speaking as a descendant of some of the few Britons that did go to colonise the area). The only significant populations are in the former SSRs (mostly Russian, of course) and Singapore.

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    7,782,750

    About 0.2% of the population. Not somewhere Europeans have had a huge impact, although most Central Asians, the ones who aren't Europeans, are significantly partially European stretching into northwest China; the Hui have a lot of West Asian haplogroups too. Also remember the Afghans, Kalash, and even northern Indio-Aryans, especially the Talysh, are incredibly Caucasoid; so throughout a lot of this region there's no racial division really.

    Middle East and North Africa

    Again it's hard to differentiate between MENA folk (come on, most Armenians and Turks and Lebanese are basically European) so a lot of these divisions are pretty moot. Someone else could find out what the proportion of Caucasians were. Yes, I included European Jews, it's hard not to in the Western censuses anyway and their bloodwork fits in with Maltese, Sicilians, etc.

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    9,376,801

    About 2.5% of the total but bear in mind that the 97.5% includes Berbers and lots of Caucasoids that are basically European and even if they aren't have a lot of European (Morisco, Vandal, Crusader, Roman, Greek, etc) heritage.

    Sub-saharan Africa

    Apart from Southern Africa, the significant populations were in the islands off the coast (especially the Seychelles which was uninhabited anyway when Europeans found it) and Equatorial Guinea because it has oil, which attracts Westerners like the tiny oil-republics in the Gulf. Most of these white populations are stable or growing, especially the former Portuguese colonies (Mozambique, Angola) as Portuguese people migrate for work opportunities.

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    6,232,437

    About 0.8% of the total, not including mixed-race people and all the South and Southeast Asians in the continent.

    Europe

    I couldn't find much data suggesting any non-Europeans in a few small countries. Generally speaking, the East, which has excellent census data, is usually almost without non-Europeans except Russia because its territory crosses into non-European territories. Then there's the West which has had a lot of immigration, and the eastern Balkans which has more Roma people (an underreported demographic). Stats for some countries were hard to find because they don't record it on their census.

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    677,898,139

    About 91.3% of the population of Europe.

    Total world population: 1,182,002,384 so 1.15-1.2 billion by my reckoning. About 16.59% of the global population.

    Here's a colour coded map of the world. Dark green = 99%+, green = 90-99%, greyish = 80-89%, yellow = 70-79%, light brown = 60-69%, orange = 50-59%, blue = 40-49%, dark blue = 30-39%, pink = 20-29%, red = 10-19%, maroon = 1-10%, black = <1%.

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    Nice Thread, mate

    But according to INEE, europeans in France are 91 % of the population . 85 % french.

    And in Gladeloupe and Martinique had the "one drop rule "and the french settlers there are called "Békés"

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    Quote Originally Posted by D´Sanglard View Post
    Nice Thread, mate

    But according to INEE, europeans in France are 91 % of the population . 85 % french.

    And in Gladeloupe and Martinique had the "one drop rule "and the french settlers there are called "Békés"
    Yes, I included their white populations.

    I doubt France is as much as 91% European. I cited 2004 data but I doubt it's gone up since then. Still, if you want to provide me with a link, that would be helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner View Post
    I laughed when I saw that you had excluded Mizrahi Jews, but included Ashkenazis. That's clearly an agenda!
    They're pretty ethnically distinct with AJs plotting in Southern Europe and Mizrahis plotting in the Fertile Crescent and the two populations only very distantly related but as I said: in Europe in 1400? European. Not in Europe in 1400? Not European.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yes, I included their white populations.

    I doubt France is as much as 91% European. I cited 2004 data but I doubt it's gone up since then. Still, if you want to provide me with a link, that would be helpful
    The INSEE made a data and showed that the majority of immigrants still be europeans.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_France

    http://www.insee.fr/fr/

    And the data collected by Institut Montaigne was in the Metropolitan France not in an entire country

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    The majorities of immigrantes from europe are Portuguese, Italians, Spanish, Balkan countries, Belgians, Brittish, Germans, Romanians, and in an small proportion, Polish, Russians, Hungarians, Greeks, and in a very small scale White americans and canadians and white australians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolaď III View Post
    Quite good work, it must have taken some time to collect all those datas and the introdutive comment before each sections were very good.
    Some numbers are nonetheless to be taken with cautions.
    - the 75% of white peple in the US looks way too high because it contains the people that are classified as hispanic white, a large part of them are indeed white like many cubans american but a lot of backwards mexicans checked white while in reality they are not. I guess with excluding a few of the non hispanic white that are non European and a few of the fake white hispanics, I think a number of 65% white sounds more accurate.
    -There are no ethnic or racial census in France but thanks to drepanocytosis test in newborns and immigration data the number of European in France must be closer to 75/80 %.

    Anyways those are my estimations ^^
    The usa is about 55% white americans. Don't forget Jews and some other half breeds can count themselfs white. For the first time this year white students are not the majority in usa public schools

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    Btw, Mugabe Detroyed Zimbabwe!!! The white population left the country and only has 30 thousands? And South Africa drops, but still has a decent minority. If 1 million white south-africans goes to Namibia, the country will be majority white and olny in Africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siberyak View Post
    The usa is about 55% white americans. Don't forget Jews and some other half breeds can count themselfs white. For the first time this year white students are not the majority in usa public schools
    Jews are <2% of the American population. Mixed race people simply record themselves as '2 or more races.' Besides, genetically speaking most American Jews are European in that genetically they will plot in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D´Sanglard View Post
    Btw, Mugabe Detroyed Zimbabwe!!! The white population left the country and only has 30 thousands? And South Africa drops, but still has a decent minority. If 1 million white south-africans goes to Namibia, the country will be majority white and olny in Africa
    If 50,000 people go to the Seychelles, the country will be majority white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    I agree on France, as I mentioned myself in the OP. It's too hard to tell thanks to the French government's policies on ethnicity. However, re America, non-Hispanic whites are higher than 65%. In fact the US Census bureau counts the white (including hispanic white) population as 77.7%, higher than I recorded it, and less than 2/3 of Hispanic are Mexican and most do not record themselves as white. There will be a margin of error, but I doubt it's very high. However, in a few decades it is like America's white percentage will be in the 50s or low 60s.
    The problem with the usa is the whitest states are barely populated like wyoming 500,000 population. While Places like california 38 million whites are the minority, Whites have been a minority in california for 10 years already

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