The early Italic people

[kotor]

The Italic tribes they are talking about we classified as Nordids, as were most ancient celts and germanics. I am not sure that these are the same as people who called themselves Romans or not, though. It's very hard to register every migration that ever happened, especially rapid ones.

Italics were closer to Celts not to Germanic people. Romans were Italics mixed gradually with European Early Neolithic Farmers. Ancient Roman elites (Patricians) were mostly Italics (Latins, Sabines, Umbrians...). Most common haplogroup among Patricians was R1b.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrici...ncient_Rome%29

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Italics were closer to Celts not to Germanic people. Romans were Italics mixed gradually with European Early Neolithic Farmers. Ancient Roman elites (Patricians) were mostly Italics (Latins, Sabines, Umbrians...). Most common haplogroup among Patricians was R1b.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrici...ncient_Rome%29

The ancient celts were nordid.

[kotor]

The ancient celts were nordid.

Ok, I don't think that Celts were all Nordid, anyway it doesn't change what I have said.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Ok, I don't think that Celts were all Nordid, anyway it doesn't change what I have said.

Except I never said otherwise. At any rate the ancient celt skulls were nordid. So I am not sure what people think of as celts today are the same.

[Ianus]

Celts were an ethnic group, not a subracial one, and Celts widespreaded from Portugal to Turkey.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Foxy, you retard, I just repeat what coon says. That is one reason I do not think celts spread r1b....

[Kenshiro]

Italics are supposed to have originated in what is modern day Hungary, as an eastern variation of the Hallstatt culture, what would make sense when we consider the Italo-Celtic hypothesis.

I think it's true, I have more than 30% of Hungarian DNA from the Bronze Age i have connections almost exclusively with Italy of the Iron Age (i'm Italian) my surname in Italian is the translation of the late Latin Gens (lineage) and means of the same lineage and pagan in the sense of pre-Christian Italic origin

[Kenshiro]

Italics are supposed to have originated in what is modern day Hungary, as an eastern variation of the Hallstatt culture, what would make sense when we consider the Italo-Celtic hypothesis.

So this is probably a mix between an ancient Italic and an ancient Greek?

[Kenshiro]

My understanding is that the ancient Italic people were not indigenous to Italy.



Benjamin W. Forston IV, Indo-European Language and Culture: An Introduction Second Edition, page 274.

If the Italic people were Indo-European immigrants to the Italian peninsula, do we know anything about how the original Italics looked before mixing with the other people inhabiting Italy at the time of their arrival? Is there any way to detect ancient Italic ancestry through genetic testing?

from Hungary Bronze Age, I can confirm it, I am moldable as Italic/Illyrian-Ancient Greek and also with Hungary BA and I have Hungary BA also as Deep dive on MTA a sample from 1000 BC from the Hungary

[Regnera]

Interesting thread.