The early Italic people

[Sikeliot]

Italic people should have originally been from Central Europe, given that Celtic languages, which Italic were similar to, also began there. Also considering there is little to no NE European influence in Italy on a genetic level.

[Tiberio]

I think yes, we know they were IE speaking however.

[Sikeliot]

I think yes, we know they were IE speaking however.

If Indo-European genes are what now come up Baltic and East European, then Italians have very low Indo-European input. Italians score some kind of Central European or Atlantic admixture, whereas Baltic/East European is higher in Greece even than anywhere in Italy.

[Tiberio]

Yes but IE were also R1b and the Italic carried this haplogroup in the peninsula.

[Sikeliot]

Yes but IE were also R1b and the Italic carried this haplogroup in the peninsula.

I'm talking autosomal, not haplogroups.

[Tiberio]

Yes i know and i think the Italic were a branch of IE.

[Sikeliot]

Then where is the Baltic or NE Euro autosomal element in Italians?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Here is a video that talks about The Romans and the early Italic people

[kotor]

If Indo-European genes are what now come up Baltic and East European, then Italians have very low Indo-European input. Italians score some kind of Central European or Atlantic admixture, whereas Baltic/East European is higher in Greece even than anywhere in Italy.

Then where is the Baltic or NE Euro autosomal element in Italians?

First Indo-Europeans were R1b, not R1a. Baltics and East Europeans have nothing to do with the first Indo-Europeans. Celts and Italics were R1b and they both descended from the same prehistoric stock of Yamna culture.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

My understanding is that the ancient Italic people were not indigenous to Italy.



Benjamin W. Forston IV, Indo-European Language and Culture: An Introduction Second Edition, page 274.

If the Italic people were Indo-European immigrants to the Italian peninsula, do we know anything about how the original Italics looked before mixing with the other people inhabiting Italy at the time of their arrival? Is there any way to detect ancient Italic ancestry through genetic testing?

The Italic tribes they are talking about we classified as Nordids, as were most ancient celts and germanics. I am not sure that these are the same as people who called themselves Romans or not, though. It's very hard to register every migration that ever happened, especially rapid ones.