Mongoloid/Asian genes in Russian people.

[hajduk]

The minorities here call themselves Estonian in Western-Europe and Northern-Europe. It's quite funny as a large part of them doesn't speak Estonian.

but the european part of Russia is richer than Estonia, why russians come in Estonia?

[Cato]

Mongol or Eurasian genes in Russians is as surprising to me as Amerindian genes in European Americans- basically a non-issue, considering that said genes probably entered into the predominantly Europid gene pool a couple of centuries ago. Unless one is a Nazi/neo-Nazi freak obsessed with an untrue conception of racial and lineageal purity then being one of the many progeny from the loins of the Great Khan, who was only the greatest conqueror in world history, is quite an honor.

[Ilya.S]

but the european part of Russia is richer than Estonia, why russians come in Estonia?

Most of the present-day Russians in Estonia are migrants from the Soviet era and their descendants.

[Äike]

but the european part of Russia is richer than Estonia, why russians come in Estonia?

Are you high?

Even in ~2006 when Putin made that campaign that every Russian who returns to Russia gets a free home and a job, not a single Russian from Estonia went back to their great Motherland.

Estonia is a lot richer, they'll rather stay here and whine about non-existent discrimination and enjoy the benefits of living in a civilized Northern-European country.

[Humanophage]

Estonian HDI - 0.883
Muscovite HDI - 0.907


Estonian GDP (PPP) per capita - $17,908
Muscovite GDP (PPP) per capita - $30,711


Estonian average salary - €700
Muscovite average salary - €660
Damn you, Estonia, we hate your freedom!


On a more serious note, white Zimbabweans and South Africans don't really leave their countries either in spite of facing extreme danger every day. It's quite difficult to start one's life anew. I would approve of them coming back though.

On the subject of East or Central Asian admixtures in Russians (or the lack thereof), I've always been using this research as a guideline: http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0...2807%2900025-0

[Äike]

Estonian HDI - 0.883
Muscovite HDI - 0.907


Estonian GDP (PPP) per capita - $17,908
Muscovite GDP (PPP) per capita - $30,711


Estonian average salary - €700
Muscovite average salary - €660
Damn you, Estonia, we hate your freedom!

Comparing cities with countries is a very dumb thing to do...

Estonia is clearly the most advanced and richest ex-USSR country, that's a fact.



Estonia HDI: 0.883

Russia HDI: 0.817

and the actual average wage(by the most recent statistics) of Estonia is ~790 euros. It's even higher in Tallinn, if we want to compare cities.

[Humanophage]

Comparing cities with countries is a very dumb thing to do...

In the Belgian Empire, would you take Congo into account when considering the per capita income of Belgium? Notice how I'm not making any witty observations about Moscow being ten times as large as Estonia, totally lacking any natural resources of her own save for a bit of wood, and still managing to pull off being more or less equally opulent. Not to mention holding a population ten times as large as its own in its iron grip. Think Estonia could do to Moscow what Moscow does to the Russian Federation?


Anyway, I'd much rather hear commentaries on Two Sources of the Russian Patrilineal Heritage in Their Eurasian Context. It quite clearly points at relatively minor Finno-Ugric admixtures among non-Northern Russians, and shows no non-European admixtures. Is the research regarded as unreliable? I personally can't find a better one which would consider distinctions between, say, Perm and Krasnodar.

I'm currently browsing the directory for free haplogroup test results, and I've only found two blokes with a 'Mongoloid' haplogroup (Q, it's wide-spread pretty much everywhere though) among hundreds: http://www.genofond.ru/default2.aspx?s=0&p=278

[Nezhegol]

Comparing cities with countries is a very dumb thing to do...

Estonia is clearly the most advanced and richest ex-USSR country, that's a fact.



Estonia HDI: 0.883

Russia HDI: 0.817

and the actual average wage(by the most recent statistics) of Estonia is ~790 euros. It's even higher in Tallinn, if we want to compare cities.

...and 20% unemployed

[EWtt]

The minorities here call themselves Estonian in Western-Europe and Northern-Europe. It's quite funny as a large part of them doesn't speak Estonian.

Interesting phenomenon indeed. Must be some sort of an inferiority complex or belief that Russians have a bad reputation in "the West"?

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Northwestern Russians look a bit northern European because of their Finnic and Baltic genetical heritage while central and south Russians look different and can be spotted miles away. They have that darker complexion.