Hungarians and Turan worship

[Turul Karom]

Hungarians in general have different DNA to Turks.
Different language to Turks.
Different religiose and cultural sphere.
Predominantly different food culture , different social customs , culture.
Different political sphere and culture.
So considering all these things ... is the main reason .

It was all far closer pre-settlement. Nobody would dispute the modern different cultures of Hungary and Turkey after Hungarian westernization and Turkish Islamification. Though Turan is far larger than these two countries. Don't think it is only about Anatolian Turks. It seems to be a common thing in some of your posts to question specifically about them.

[Stears]

You have posted this link many times in many threads. The Ugric Lingua Franca thread discussed this, the Turanid peoples thread discussed this, on and on, etc, all your answers are found in a copy paste of the same. But as more comes out of the Kurultaj and more science showing our connections with Turkic peoples, you just begin with insults and the same copy paste.

You even posted that same "Turul has been defeated" on my profile and I believe in two other threads as well lol. The irony is you claim someone "runs away" when they don't reply to you in a few minutes, and by declaring a discussion "over", then give yourself a reason to ignore everything in the thread that was posed to you. It is odd you can only address me with the same blog posts and old articles to hide behind. Do you still belive leeches cure illnesses? No? Why? Many old books still say so! But the Turkic evidence that is corroborated by modern science? No, that is a neo - Cuman - Turkic conspiracy to size Hungarian history our from under the proud Aryan Nordic fantasy you build for yourself. It's weird you are so hateful towards your own culture. A psychologist would have a fantastic study.


But really, do you think that in all of your repeated, debunked points, straw man arguments, and tired insults, that it is ignored how you avoid questions? How you change your mind about things after your DNA tests? Your refusal to address the Britannica issue you were so confident on originally?

Still waiting for that quote to show they weren't talking about the Magyars at large...

Honestly, if all anti-Turanists debated or discussed the issue as yourself it would be very one sided very quickly. But I know it is difficult to sharpen your sources when science, culture, and organic public sentiment produce the opposite result. It is why I don't bemoan you; the truth is known. Nobody can change our past.

You wrote a circumlocution again. (Mellébeszélsz megint)
So I had right . You avoid to answer to the content of the university textbook, which compares your weird material culture and social development with the standard Hungarian culture. It is not only about simple cultural differences, but it also explains that YOU BELONG TO A DIFFERENT CIVILIZATION. (Ha lehet, ne beszélj mellé!!!)

[oszkar07]

It was all far closer pre-settlement. Nobody would dispute the modern different cultures of Hungary and Turkey after Hungarian westernization and Turkish Islamification. Though Turan is far larger than these two countries. Don't think it is only about Anatolian Turks. It seems to be a common thing in some of your posts to question specifically about them.

I reference them when in context where they have been referenced ...interesting that your Encyclopedia article mentions Turkish instead of Turkic.
The real cultural difference between Hungarians and all Turkic people is equally quite large... doesnt matter who we talk about.
For people non Hungarian non Turkic from the outside as observers of this recent Turanian phenomenon ...from the outside they may not understand such differences but for anyone who is Hungarian and not necessarily high on the Turanian cool aid ... its quite obvious .

Though Turan is far larger than these two countries.

Turan and Turanian is a word that has developed different meanings over time.
It was originally Iranian word that described region and peoples of that region that was north of Iran and mostly todays central asia.
But the word itself in modern times has other affiliations ... such as the following ...

"Politics


In the declining days of the Ottoman Empire, some Turkish nationalists adopted the word Turanian to express a pan-Turkic ideology, also called Turanism. As of 2013 Turanism forms an important aspect of the ideology of the Turkish Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), whose members are also known as Grey Wolves.

In recent times, the word Turanian has sometimes expressed a pan-Altaic nationalism (theoretically including Manchus and Mongols in addition to Turks), though no political organization seems to have adopted such an ambitious platform."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turan


Its the reason in Turul Karom'sz, previous posts with pictures there are many people throwing up the Nationalist Grey Wolves hand signal.
There is no denying of the connection between modern Turanism and Turkic Nationalism and about the Grey Wolves ...

Grey Wolves
Ideology
Turkish ultranationalism
Pan-Turkism and Turanism[2][3]
Anti-Armenian sentiment[4]
Anti-Greek sentiment[4]
Anti-Kurdish sentiment[3][5][6][7]
Anti-communism[1][8]
Political position Far-right
Major actions Massacres, assassinations, bombings[9]
Notable attacks
May 1, 1977: Taksim Square massacre (alleged)
March 16, 1978: Beyazıt massacre
October 9, 1978: Bahçelievler massacre
December 1978: Maraş massacre
February 1, 1979: Assassination of Abdi İpekçi
May 1980: Çorum massacre
May 13, 1981: Pope John Paul II assassination attempt (debated)
June 18, 1988: Assassination attempt on Prime Minister Turgut Özal
March 12–15, 1995: Gazi Quarter riots (involvement)[10]
March 13–17, 1995: Coup d'état attempt in Azerbaijan
August 17, 2015: 2015 Bangkok bombing (suspected)[11][12]
Size
Turkey: 3.6% of the electorate are supporters (2014)[13] ≈ 1.9 million[A]
Germany: 10,000+ (2014)[4]
Means of revenue Illegal drug trade,[1][9] extortion, people smuggling[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_W...(organization)

There is a post by Turkic member in this thread that mentions Hungarian support for Azeri Cause ... You cannot deny the Political implications of Turanism.
But , see what you wanna see.

[Turul Karom]

I reference them when in context where they have been referenced ...interesting that your Encyclopedia article mentions Turkish instead of Turkic.
The real cultural difference between Hungarians and all Turkic people is equally quite large... doesnt matter who we talk about.
For people non Hungarian non Turkic from the outside as observers of this recent Turanian phenomenon ...from the outside they may not understand such differences but for anyone who is Hungarian and not necessarily high on the Turanian cool aid ... its quite obvious .



Turan and Turanian is a word that has developed different meanings over time.
It was originally Iranian word that described region and peoples of that region that was north of Iran and mostly todays central asia.
But the word itself in modern times has other affiliations ... such as the following ...

"Politics


In the declining days of the Ottoman Empire, some Turkish nationalists adopted the word Turanian to express a pan-Turkic ideology, also called Turanism. As of 2013 Turanism forms an important aspect of the ideology of the Turkish Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), whose members are also known as Grey Wolves.

In recent times, the word Turanian has sometimes expressed a pan-Altaic nationalism (theoretically including Manchus and Mongols in addition to Turks), though no political organization seems to have adopted such an ambitious platform."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turan


Its the reason in Turul Karom'sz, previous posts with pictures there are many people throwing up the Nationalist Grey Wolves hand signal.
There is no denying of the connection between modern Turanism and Turkic Nationalism and about the Grey Wolves ...

Grey Wolves
Ideology
Turkish ultranationalism
Pan-Turkism and Turanism[2][3]
Anti-Armenian sentiment[4]
Anti-Greek sentiment[4]
Anti-Kurdish sentiment[3][5][6][7]
Anti-communism[1][8]
Political position Far-right
Major actions Massacres, assassinations, bombings[9]
Notable attacks
May 1, 1977: Taksim Square massacre (alleged)
March 16, 1978: Beyazıt massacre
October 9, 1978: Bahçelievler massacre
December 1978: Maraş massacre
February 1, 1979: Assassination of Abdi İpekçi
May 1980: Çorum massacre
May 13, 1981: Pope John Paul II assassination attempt (debated)
June 18, 1988: Assassination attempt on Prime Minister Turgut Özal
March 12–15, 1995: Gazi Quarter riots (involvement)[10]
March 13–17, 1995: Coup d'état attempt in Azerbaijan
August 17, 2015: 2015 Bangkok bombing (suspected)[11][12]
Size
Turkey: 3.6% of the electorate are supporters (2014)[13] ≈ 1.9 million[A]
Germany: 10,000+ (2014)[4]
Means of revenue Illegal drug trade,[1][9] extortion, people smuggling[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_W...(organization)

There is a post by Turkic member in this thread that mentions Hungarian support for Azeri Cause ... You cannot deny the Political implications of Turanism.
But , see what you wanna see.

The Encyclopedia mentions Turkish instead of Turkic because that is a historically inter-operable word, as the West does not at-large understand the various ethnic concepts that makes up Turkic peoples. It has gotten better, but the concept still lingers. This becomes even more complicated when Turkey themselves call their nation “Turkey”, which makes it sound like the homeland of all Turkic people. I always state that all ethnic Turks in Anatolia are Turkic, but not every Turkic person is “Turkish”. It makes things much clearer then.

As far as Turanism goes as a word, don't let anyone tell you that it must have some magical meaning outside of the stated objectives. Nobody is obligated to take it up as a national mantle as it is a meta-identity. What kills me is the wikipedia quoting that happens a lot on this forum (certainly not just in this thread or by yourself). Yes, I read about the “Grey Wolves” and all of the things they have done or are speculated to have done. But Hungary has no “Grey Wolf” party, and MHP itself is collapsing, if you follow Turkish politics. Sometimes the hand symbol is just one of Turanic solidarity or thrown up in support of a Turkic person doing something amazing or cool. It is important to separate bad-faith actors in any scenario. Just like people use the flags of their nation to hide behind with bad policy, so can people exploit the family connections to protect themselves. This happens even in small families in a single household, so of course it will happen with different people in different countries.

Don't fall for bad faith actors.

[Stears]

pseudo-scientific romantic turul blah blah blah

This is the magic link for the escape of turulka: http://tet.rkk.hu/index.php/TeT/article/view/98/195
He always flees to circumlocutium (MELLÉBESZÉLÉS) when he sees it.......

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Tengri biz menen Macar

[blogen]

Nah, the turanism is the official Hungarian state policy: Orbán Viktor on the opening ceremony on the Nomad World Games in Kyrgysistan.





He says: "There is a new world order with a rising East. We are the descendants of Attila and we follow this tradition."

The defender of Europe and the Christianity of course! The Hungarians laughing everytime, when some uninformed westerner take this hipercorrupt traitor scumbag mafia leader for their hero

[gültekin]

What a butthurt thread, why should Magyars associate themselves with your kind , peasant vassal? You just want to see your selve better then others, but when you look at them, you see a proud people who used you onetimes, owned you and created you, and yes, the still existing Magyar idendity hurts your feelings. why should they assimilate themselves in your idendity ? just because you have suffer from buttfuck, he ? imao. keep being buttfuck

[Videx]

Nah, the turanism is the official Hungarian state policy: Orbán Viktor on the opening ceremony on the Nomad World Games in Kyrgysistan.



He says: "There is a new world order with a rising East. We are the descendants of Attila and we follow this tradition."

The defender of Europe and the Christianity of course! The Hungarians laughing everytime, when some uninformed westerner take this hipercorrupt traitor scumbag mafia leader for their hero

Orbán is populist liar. He only wants the voters of the Jobbik that is why he is doing this. Also always licks the boots where he wants money. Russia, Germany, China, now Turkey.

"Islam is not part of Europe and should never be" then goes and shakes hands with the Turks. Claiming we have so much in common... my god.

He is so pathetic. The only good thing he is good for is to keep Jobbik down, and keep migrants out. Though even that is not entirely true, as he let in lots of people who payed for those bonds(no idea what's their name in English) from China, Russia, Ukraine without control.
The rest is laughable, and pathetic for a politician.

What a butthurt thread, why should Magyars associate themselves with your kind , peasant vassal? You just want to see your selve better then others, but when you look at them, you see a proud people who used you onetimes, owned you and created you, and yes, the still existing Magyar idendity hurts your feelings. why should they assimilate themselves in your idendity ? just because you have suffer from buttfuck, he ? imao. keep being buttfuck

You have nothing to do here and say who is Magyar and who is not. If you are soooo keen on that part of the past, maybe remind yourself of the Ottoman Empire too...one of the reasons Hungary is now an even more mixed population of slavic and germanic people. So thank your people for that.

And that is btw not a general "magyar identity". You have zero idea about Hungarians mentality and views in general. Because you only see the turan worshippers.

[brennus dux gallorum]

What a butthurt thread, why should Magyars associate themselves with your kind , peasant vassal? You just want to see your selve better then others, but when you look at them, you see a proud people who used you onetimes, owned you and created you, and yes, the still existing Magyar idendity hurts your feelings. why should they assimilate themselves in your idendity ? just because you have suffer from buttfuck, he ? imao. keep being buttfuck

Curious, whom exactly are you talking to? Because you have not even quoted any post neither refer any particular name